usfbullrider Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 3,222 Reputation: 387 Days Won: 8 Joined: 07/30/2011 Share Posted November 3, 2013 he doesn't have to play that good if shaw will open up for some runs. against ucf he will have to be that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 3, 2013 thank goodness jim and wally are gone those 2 won nothing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull-Hornz Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 78 Content Count: 1,978 Reputation: 333 Days Won: 7 Joined: 04/19/2007 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) The D cannot hang with speedy, pass first offenses. We have been hurting at CB position for years now including Leavitt's last years... Mistral Raymond Nate Allen Trae Williams Mike Jenkins Jerome Murphy We had the talent but the coaching or depth was lacking. There was no reason we shouldn't have been better during the years Allen, Williams and Jenkins were here. We had two CB's that were drafted in the first three rounds and we still lost what 4-5 games. Sigh...maybe u could go back and read my post. While I do agree with u on some of the points, they are bit unrelated to what I wrote. Never said we did not have good DBs under Leavitt... Well even if you're going to narrow your scope to leavitt's last two years...He still had Nate Allen, Kayvon Webster, Quenton Washington, Jerome Murphy. If you're going to be picky yes we dropped off in talent but we weren't hurting per se Note being picky just accurate, and its on you if you make a to my comment Of the orginal list you provided only one was a true CB and J. Murphy was great. Remember the Baker- Butler combo? It was not pretty after being spoiled by lock down CBs in Williams and Jenkins. Edited November 3, 2013 by Bull-Hornz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,501 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Big Chuck has done a good job at getting the defense back up to par. The last few seasons under Holtz were terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 76 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The USF secondary is young and adapting to the new style of defense that Bresnahan and Cooper are deploying. Offenses are supplementing running with shorter passes which keep LBs, DEs and Ss at bay. Perhaps at Corner, but we have two Sr. Safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaPenguin777 Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 1,629 Reputation: 243 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2008 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The USF secondary is young and adapting to the new style of defense that Bresnahan and Cooper are deploying. Offenses are supplementing running with shorter passes which keep LBs, DEs and Ss at bay. Perhaps at Corner, but we have two Sr. Safeties. And Mark Joyce is terrible so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted November 3, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted November 3, 2013 i have no problem with Bres so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFbulls24 Posted November 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,516 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 One thing that Leavitt was incredible at was identifying talent, evaluating that talent, and putting those players in a position to succeed. That was evident at how quickly he made our program relevant and also by taking players that others didn't want, changing their positions, etc. George Selvie a 1 star Offensive Line recruit with 0 D1 offers until Leavitt came along. Changed his position to DE and next thing you know he's an All-American. Nate Allen a 2 star QB. Leavitt changed him to Safety and now hes the starter for the Eagles. Taggart can recruit, but with that I hope he is the talent evaluator that Leavitt was. If that's the case we'll be in very good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dznick51 Posted November 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 193 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/24/2011 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The USF secondary is young and adapting to the new style of defense that Bresnahan and Cooper are deploying. Offenses are supplementing running with shorter passes which keep LBs, DEs and Ss at bay. Perhaps at Corner, but we have two Sr. Safeties. And Mark Joyce is terrible so... I couldn't agree more. That guy never wraps up, he's always looking for the "highlight real" hit. I'm not trying to turn blast him because he's not the only one on the D, but it's a big problem when the guy who is literally your last line of defense can't make a tackle. There have been WAY too many missed tackles by USF this year, including special teams. I don't know how many of you watched the UM v FSU game this weekend. FSU is a better team, without a doubt, but their D can flat out tackle way better than any team I have seen play. Miami missed too many tackles (not the only reason they lost) and it showed on the scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted November 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted November 4, 2013 i have no problem with Bres so far Maybe if he wasn't up in the box game one, that game could have been a win or at least not a record breaker. Obviously CWT had a problem with him that game telling him to be on the sidelines from then on. Yeah, the offense put them in tough positions several times during that game but it was more than that, they were ran and passed all over. McNeese St has been held to as little as 6 points by a FCS team this season, Northern Iowa and to a TD by SE LA. So yeah, the worse loss by an FBS to an FCS team in history, so I do have a problem with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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