Mouse is at it again. AD's will select CollegePlayoff.

[BDYZR]

 

 

 

 

The ONLY way this is going to be stopped is through the federal government. There are public schools involved and what you have is one set of school admins controlling an enormous amount of money, denying the public schools of 5 conferences left out a chance at competing. The threat of government intervention was the reason that the playoffs came about and the P5 ADs have appeared to have forgotten that the whole idea was better access to non-BCS schools to the championship. What is needed is a Czar appointed to straighten this mess out and make it fair for all involved.

 

We live in a free country, and our economy is based on capitalism.  If you want "fair" for all involved, you want communism.  With capitalism, everyone is free to make whatever agreements they wish.

 

 

 

Problem is you forgot the word OPEN. free and OPEN market. In Capitalism, everyone should have the same opportunity, not chance, but opportunity. If the P5 limits the # of teams that are allowed from the G5, then they do not have the same opportunity as the P5 teams. As many have said, I don't think that it's a legal issue. 

 

and this is different from the old BCS system how? Since when has any team other than the one from the original power conferences had a real chance at competing for a NC?

 

Uh, that's why the playoffs were put it, for the 2006 situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCS_controversies#Non-AQ_Bowl_Selection_Controversy

 

Non-AQ Bowl Selection Controversy

Unrelated to the title game was the controversy regarding the bowl selections. While at No. 6, Boise State was able to earn an at-large berth, the announcement that they would be playing No. 4 TCU in the Fiesta Bowl caused a massive outcry and also focused the controversy on the broader issue of truly fair access to Bowl opportunities, rather than just appearances. As the two "BCS Busters" would be matched up against each other and would thereby be denied the opportunity to face a top team from one of the six BCS conferences, instead providing a rematch of a non-BCS bowl from the previous year (see above), the BCS came off looking " at best, a cowardly cartel".^[47] Placing two teams from non-AQ conferences in the same bowl also contradicted the previous assertion that non-AQ schools are less likely to receive at-large bids because the bowls prefer the superior drawing power of the big schools and their highly mobile fanbases—hence undefeated Boise State's omission from the BCS the previous year in favor of two-loss Ohio State. For this reason, some are calling this match up the "Separate but Equal Bowl," or the "Fiasco Bowl."

The issue of far more consequence brought to the fore as a result of this game was that of access to equal and fair competition, the access to the chance to compete for and win the "Big Game" in the first place. There was a tremendous amount of criticism surrounding the 2010 Fiesta Bowl team pairing. Many argued that the BCS was terrified of a non-BCS team defeating a BCS team and bringing into question ever more starkly the entire premise of the BCS's existence, that teams from BCS Conferences are somehow superior to non-BCS teams and are therefore more deserving to play for the "National Championship". A defeat of a top ranked BCS team would help affirm that this premise was false – as the impressive record of non-BCS teams in BCS Bowls (4–2 against BCS AQ teams) already hints at. Consequently, the BCS paired TCU and BSU together so that the possibility of an embarrassment of an AQ school, and by extension the entire system's validity, was eliminated.^[48][49]

 

Not arguing with the legal wording to show "opportunity", I'm saying that there's just as much chance in the future of a non-P5 team playing for a NC as there was in 2006.

[Bull-by-Marriage]

IMO it's only a matter of time before the P5 start paying players thus making them the farm system for the NFL. What that will do to the rest of CFB is the big question.

[Bullschmutz]

The ONLY way this is going to be stopped is through the federal government. There are public schools involved and what you have is one set of school admins controlling an enormous amount of money, denying the public schools of 5 conferences left out a chance at competing. The threat of government intervention was the reason that the playoffs came about and the P5 ADs have appeared to have forgotten that the whole idea was better access to non-BCS schools to the championship. What is needed is a Czar appointed to straighten this mess out and make it fair for all involved.

The way government works is that any Czar appointed would be to "level the playing field" and "look out for all parties involved" to make sure "no one is denied acesss or resources..."

...But would really be Nick Satan's #1 booster.

[SpeedyBull]

This would likely NEVER happen but IF:

 

The 10 conferences re align further to make 8 conferences, and each conferences sends their champion to the play off

 

1st round:
1vs8

2vs7

3vs6

4vs5 

2nd round:
1vs4
2vs3

 

Championship

1vs2

 

Done, everyone has an equal chance to play in the championship and is a true champion of the country. 

will the 2nd place team int he SEC be better then most of the G5 schools? Yes, now but given a balanced opportunity to get to play in the championship I think recruiting would balance out and all football games would become more entertaining. However the SEC would lose power and that is the main reason something like this wouldn't happen.

[SpeedyBull]

In no order, if this system was in place last year, it could have been a playoff looking like:
 

FSU (possibly Notre Dame) - ACC

Kansas State - B12

Nebraska (ohio was banned) -B10

Louisville - BEast

Boise - Mw

Tulsa - CUSA

Standford - PAC

Alabama - SEC

 

Speculating a round 2 being:

Alabama vs Nebraska
Louisville vs FSU

 

and the championship 

Alabama vs Louisville (could go either way with FSU)

 

Assuming other conferences dissolved into these conferences..

To me that actually doesn't look too bad of a playoff. 

Edited July 18, 2013 by SpeedyBull

[WoolyBully]

 I am kinda fuzzy on this new system. So the 4 non Power 5 slots, Are they in a true playoff that if they go undefeated they can win the NC or just in the top tier of bowl games?

Not sure what you mean by '4 non P(5) slots'? The G(5) are eligible - by ranking - to either be in one of the playoff games (held in the rotating bowl system) or their guaranteed 'access bowl' slot....

 

1. The Rose, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, Sugar and Chik-fil-A bowls will host semi-final games on a rotating basis. That means that two bowls - each year - will host the four teams selected by the committee as eligible to play for the NC.

 

2. When hosting those four teams, those two bowls are considered a semi-final playoff game. Winners of these two bowls are the only teams to farther advance into post season play and will face one another in the championship game.

 

3. The other four bowls - when not hosting a semi-final game - are called 'access bowls', and will get the highest ranked teams (as The Committee has selected) remaining, with the caveat of some conference tie-ins (e.g. The ACC goes to the Orange Bowl, unless the ACC is slated for a semi-final game, etc.). As a reminder, there is now no rule against a given conference having but one representative team. You could find multiple SEC teams eligible for the playoff and inclusion in the access bowls. By maintaining conference tie-ins, the access bowls do not have to contend with getting stuck with 'undesirable' teams (e.g. a G(5) that doesn't travel well, etc.). The access bowls are just as they are today. There is no farther play into post season for winning teams. 

 

4. There is one single slot reserved in the 'access bowls' for the highest ranked of all the G(5) schools. So, of the five G(5) conferences...the single highest ranked team from all of them, whether it is Boise State or Toledo or SMU ... that is the sole team to find itself playing against a P(5) in one of the bowls mentioned above.

 

In theory, access is greater than before.

 

A G(5) is either ranked high enough at the end of the season to play in a semi-final, and advance to the finals (regardless of the statistical odds that this will happen, it exists on paper) and the worst case scenario is that the highest ranked G(5) gets an access bowl anyway. Kind of like replacing the Big East BCS automatic qualifier slot for our champion, as now being open to the G(5) contenders. 

 

And , of course, the NC is bid out to whoever wants to cough up the $ to host it, with the first one being in Jerry's new digs down in Tejas.