JTrue Posted June 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Guess rumor was wrong Certainly, but it's hard to say why. Could be, he isn't that good. Could be, the MLB teams figured there was no chance he would skip coming to USF. Most likely they figured he wasn't worth drafting high enough to forgo USF, so they passed altogether.He probably got calls at some point and at that point, the team(s) were told he's committed to coming here ... A lot of committed players got drafted this weekend. If a team thought he was worth a pick, it would have happened. Even Michael Vick got drafted prior to the NFL draft. Edited June 9, 2013 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Auman Posted June 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 28 Content Count: 1,913 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/12/2004 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It wasn't a rumor. His coaches -- and he -- expected to be drafted, but also made it clear he wanted to play college football. Talked to his dad as recently as last week, and there was the expectation of being drafted, but an understanding that he wanted to be a college athlete. Sometimes baseball teams will like an evaluation enough to use a high pick and try to change someone's mind with a six-figure signing bonus; other times, they'll respect the kid's wishes and not bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 9, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Guess rumor was wrong Certainly, but it's hard to say why. Could be, he isn't that good. Could be, the MLB teams figured there was no chance he would skip coming to USF. Most likely they figured he wasn't worth drafting high enough to forgo USF, so they passed altogether.He probably got calls at some point and at that point, the team(s) were told he's committed to coming here ...A lot of committed players got drafted this weekend. If a team thought he was worth a pick, it would have happened. Even Michael Vick got drafted prior to the NFL draft. Looks like it probably depends on the philosophy of the MLB teams interested in him. Sure there are some out there that, if a prospect says he is definitely going to school, they don't waste any pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted June 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It wasn't a rumor. His coaches -- and he -- expected to be drafted, but also made it clear he wanted to play college football. Talked to his dad as recently as last week, and there was the expectation of being drafted, but an understanding that he wanted to be a college athlete. Sometimes baseball teams will like an evaluation enough to use a high pick and try to change someone's mind with a six-figure signing bonus; other times, they'll respect the kid's wishes and not bother. This. Every situation is different, and different values of upside versus how committed the kid is to play another sport. Risk vs reward. Lots of players that are talented enough don't get drafted because they are committed to college. Some players a team will take a flyer. One thing that has changed recently (since Vick got drafted) is that the teams are much more restricted in what they can offer. Used to be, a team could draft a guy in the 37th round and still offer him a $2mil bonus. The Yankees convinced a lot of kids to forgo college that way, so the system was changed. Now a late round pick can't get offered big money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 10, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 10, 2013 It wasn't a rumor. His coaches -- and he -- expected to be drafted, but also made it clear he wanted to play college football. Talked to his dad as recently as last week, and there was the expectation of being drafted, but an understanding that he wanted to be a college athlete. Sometimes baseball teams will like an evaluation enough to use a high pick and try to change someone's mind with a six-figure signing bonus; other times, they'll respect the kid's wishes and not bother. This. Every situation is different, and different values of upside versus how committed the kid is to play another sport. Risk vs reward. Lots of players that are talented enough don't get drafted because they are committed to college. Some players a team will take a flyer. One thing that has changed recently (since Vick got drafted) is that the teams are much more restricted in what they can offer. Used to be, a team could draft a guy in the 37th round and still offer him a $2mil bonus. The Yankees convinced a lot of kids to forgo college that way, so the system was changed. Now a late round pick can't get offered big money. This I was wondering about with the local kids drafted late ... What's the rule on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted June 10, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted June 10, 2013 It wasn't a rumor. His coaches -- and he -- expected to be drafted, but also made it clear he wanted to play college football. Talked to his dad as recently as last week, and there was the expectation of being drafted, but an understanding that he wanted to be a college athlete. Sometimes baseball teams will like an evaluation enough to use a high pick and try to change someone's mind with a six-figure signing bonus; other times, they'll respect the kid's wishes and not bother. This. Every situation is different, and different values of upside versus how committed the kid is to play another sport. Risk vs reward. Lots of players that are talented enough don't get drafted because they are committed to college. Some players a team will take a flyer. One thing that has changed recently (since Vick got drafted) is that the teams are much more restricted in what they can offer. Used to be, a team could draft a guy in the 37th round and still offer him a $2mil bonus. The Yankees convinced a lot of kids to forgo college that way, so the system was changed. Now a late round pick can't get offered big money. This I was wondering about with the local kids drafted late ... What's the rule on that? Basically, you get a pool amount to use on all your picks. So if you give one kid more money, you have to cut some later to even it out. There's some strategy to drafting a kid high and offering him less, then leaving yourself some extra cash to go over slot with a few others in later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted June 10, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Those players also have to dish out quite a bit of that cash to the people running the club house as well. There is no time for them to do the day to day stuff themselves, so they pretty much pay for the most common actions.... money can go fast; you have to hope you get picked up quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted June 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted June 12, 2013 A little bit of an aside. Braves 23rd round pick in 2010, Evan Gattis, out of organized BB for 4 years, is NL Rookie of the month for each of the 1st two months. Lightning in a bottle, he has 14 HRs, 4 in his last 8 PH ABs. I'll take that 23rd rounder all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted June 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted June 12, 2013 ^^^^ so much fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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