Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, USF

[TherapyBull]

I love this university and bleed green and gold, but let’s look at some things.

Large Commuter School

Non AAU Member

Abysmal 6 year graduation rates

Ranked 170th Nationally by US News

Relatively new football program

Plays home games in an NFL stadium, 12 miles from campus

Has actual attendance around 30K for non-marquee matchups.

Never finished higher than 3rd in the Big East, Never finished ranked.

1 NCAA Basketball tournament in 20 years.

Resides in the 13th largest media market.

Looking at this, it is pretty clear that USF is where it is supposed to be in terms of conference re-alignment. The only thing we have going for us is the large media market, but all the other schools in this conference were chosen for that reason too. The Big East gave us a huge gift because they wanted to maintain a presence in Florida, our lot never improved.

What if we are stuck in this conference for the next 5 years? If things do not improve, what makes us think we will be first in line to get into another conference? Yes, Florida has fertile recruiting grounds and maybe FSU will bolt for another conference at some point. However, we cannot bank that in 5 years USF will be in a better position than UCF under that mindset. The Big 12 might not choose to expand to Florida, we just don’t know.

Instead of blaming others I hope we start looking at some of these things, and look for ways to improve. Administration and the fan base should take ownership. I for one will continue to support USF athletics via donations and attendance at football games. I will make it a point to have all 6 of my season tickets used. I will also continue to press administration to improve academics. We have to take some responsibility.

What scares me the most is the entitlement mindset, and that we somehow deserve to be at the table with the big boys. Let’s sit idle and see if we get picked up. Sure if the ACC or Big 12 came calling we would gladly accept, but that gift might not ever come.

Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, lets clean up...........

[Hem]

Enough of this piss poor mentality

USF is a new school compared to most other major universities and has a baby football progam (16 years). We have accomplished MAJOR feats in those 16 years and will continue to do so. How many 16 year old football programs do you know of that have sold out an NFL stadium on more than one occasion? Have you been to campus recently? You know all those huge buildings going up and all those improvements everywhere? It's not because we suck, it's because we are growing and succeeding in more ways than one. We had 2 off years due to a garbage coach, get the f*ck over it. Are the rest of you THAT MINDF*CKED by what Holtz did? Graduation rates are going up, student acceptance has become more strict. Enough of this defeatist p*ssy ****, man the f*ck up.

[rayzofheat]

Dude....just shutup.

[Southshore26]

If I hear one more person say USF is a commuter school I'm going to crack my head on the desk. Don't like 80% of the students live within 5 miles of the campus now? On Campus housing has been sold out 2 years now and the apartments just off campus are pretty much slap full..... commuter my ass....

[Southshore26]

I love this university and bleed green and gold, but let’s look at some things.

Large Commuter School

Non AAU Member

Abysmal 6 year graduation rates

Ranked 170th Nationally by US News

Relatively new football program

Plays home games in an NFL stadium, 12 miles from campus

Has actual attendance around 30K for non-marquee matchups.

Never finished higher than 3rd in the Big East, Never finished ranked.

1 NCAA Basketball tournament in 20 years.

Resides in the 13th largest media market.

Looking at this, it is pretty clear that USF is where it is supposed to be in terms of conference re-alignment. The only thing we have going for us is the large media market, but all the other schools in this conference were chosen for that reason too. The Big East gave us a huge gift because they wanted to maintain a presence in Florida, our lot never improved.

What if we are stuck in this conference for the next 5 years? If things do not improve, what makes us think we will be first in line to get into another conference? Yes, Florida has fertile recruiting grounds and maybe FSU will bolt for another conference at some point. However, we cannot bank that in 5 years USF will be in a better position than UCF under that mindset. The Big 12 might not choose to expand to Florida, we just don’t know.

Instead of blaming others I hope we start looking at some of these things, and look for ways to improve. Administration and the fan base should take ownership. I for one will continue to support USF athletics via donations and attendance at football games. I will make it a point to have all 6 of my season tickets used. I will also continue to press administration to improve academics. We have to take some responsibility.

What scares me the most is the entitlement mindset, and that we somehow deserve to be at the table with the big boys. Let’s sit idle and see if we get picked up. Sure if the ACC or Big 12 came calling we would gladly accept, but that gift might not ever come.

Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, lets clean up...........

^---- Current UCiF student?

[TherapyBull]

Enough of this piss poor mentality

USF is a new school compared to most other major universities and has a baby football progam (16 years). We have accomplished MAJOR feats in those 16 years and will continue to do so. How many 16 year old football programs do you know of that have sold out an NFL stadium on more than one occasion? Have you been to campus recently? You know all those huge buildings going up and all those improvements everywhere? It's not because we suck, it's because we are growing and succeeding in more ways than one. We had 2 off years due to a garbage coach, get the f*ck over it. Are the rest of you THAT MINDF*CKED by what Holtz did? Graduation rates are going up, student acceptance has become more strict. Enough of this defeatist p*ssy ****, man the f*ck up.

gonna calmly disagree with this argument, yes USF is improving, but we are not where we need to be. It is exactly this mentality that I wrote about.....Sorry you just proved the point.. take time to read what was wrote, its not deafeatist, its about taking ownership.

[TherapyBull]

If I hear one more person say USF is a commuter school I'm going to crack my head on the desk. Don't like 80% of the students live within 5 miles of the campus now? On Campus housing has been sold out 2 years now and the apartments just off campus are pretty much slap full..... commuter my ass....

Unfortunatly perception is reality, call it what you want and use all your stats about more dorms on campus than UF. We are viewed as a commuter school.

[TherapyBull]

I love this university and bleed green and gold, but let’s look at some things.

Large Commuter School

Non AAU Member

Abysmal 6 year graduation rates

Ranked 170th Nationally by US News

Relatively new football program

Plays home games in an NFL stadium, 12 miles from campus

Has actual attendance around 30K for non-marquee matchups.

Never finished higher than 3rd in the Big East, Never finished ranked.

1 NCAA Basketball tournament in 20 years.

Resides in the 13th largest media market.

Looking at this, it is pretty clear that USF is where it is supposed to be in terms of conference re-alignment. The only thing we have going for us is the large media market, but all the other schools in this conference were chosen for that reason too. The Big East gave us a huge gift because they wanted to maintain a presence in Florida, our lot never improved.

What if we are stuck in this conference for the next 5 years? If things do not improve, what makes us think we will be first in line to get into another conference? Yes, Florida has fertile recruiting grounds and maybe FSU will bolt for another conference at some point. However, we cannot bank that in 5 years USF will be in a better position than UCF under that mindset. The Big 12 might not choose to expand to Florida, we just don’t know.

Instead of blaming others I hope we start looking at some of these things, and look for ways to improve. Administration and the fan base should take ownership. I for one will continue to support USF athletics via donations and attendance at football games. I will make it a point to have all 6 of my season tickets used. I will also continue to press administration to improve academics. We have to take some responsibility.

What scares me the most is the entitlement mindset, and that we somehow deserve to be at the table with the big boys. Let’s sit idle and see if we get picked up. Sure if the ACC or Big 12 came calling we would gladly accept, but that gift might not ever come.

Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, lets clean up...........

^---- Current UCiF student?

Nope.

[usfbullrider]

It's a positive thing to look inward and try to improve. Expansion will be ongoing thing into the future. We need to improve attendance but first we have to improve the product on the field. Skip wrecked our spirit with his attitude and we need to hit reset which we just did. Big things going to happen here I just believe in this school and program. If we can't get into a major conference right now then we should focus on being the BSU of the east and just wreck the competition.

[Triple B]

Enough of this piss poor mentality

USF is a new school compared to most other major universities and has a baby football progam (16 years). We have accomplished MAJOR feats in those 16 years and will continue to do so. How many 16 year old football programs do you know of that have sold out an NFL stadium on more than one occasion? Have you been to campus recently? You know all those huge buildings going up and all those improvements everywhere? It's not because we suck, it's because we are growing and succeeding in more ways than one. We had 2 off years due to a garbage coach, get the f*ck over it. Are the rest of you THAT MINDF*CKED by what Holtz did? Graduation rates are going up, student acceptance has become more strict. Enough of this defeatist p*ssy ****, man the f*ck up.

Please stop blaming Skip for everything. Nothing Therapy said involved our football program the last 3 years ... Are you that mindfucked? His entitlement comment was dead solid perfect.