Holtz on the Hooter Hotline this AM

[Bull Martin]

A. Woulard is Skips saving grace.

We need DB's and a pass rush more than we need a QB at this point. We should have taken a 3 star QB every year skip was here. Brion Carnes should have been the first (not to mention we might have gotten Ace Sanders with him).

Too pile on to Skip's inept QB recruiting. We had a guy that could have probably helped immensely with inroads at Armwood and the surrounding area that Skip flat out refused to give a QB shot to in Josh Grady. Eventually Grady went to Vandy b/c they gave him a shot at QB and guess what? Grady is a WR at Vandy. Skip is a complete fool to not give Grady a legit shot at QB and transition him to Safety after his redshirt year.

i've wondered if Grady would have signed here if Skip would have just given him a shot at QB. What would it have hurt?

Skip took the high road and was honest with the young man that we wouldn't be a QB at USF. Vandy gave him a shot at QB knowing full well they wanted him at WR. It's a win-win situation that Skip totally screwed up at. So you bring Grady in at QB. What's the worst that can happen? He actually makes a successful back-up QB with a chance to play QB down the line; or he gets converted to where you want him and he slides in at safety a year later.

Looking at the team right now we can use both a QB and DB's. It's just another poor decision by Skip.

[Bull94]

A. Woulard is Skips saving grace.

We need DB's and a pass rush more than we need a QB at this point. We should have taken a 3 star QB every year skip was here. Brion Carnes should have been the first (not to mention we might have gotten Ace Sanders with him).

Too pile on to Skip's inept QB recruiting. We had a guy that could have probably helped immensely with inroads at Armwood and the surrounding area that Skip flat out refused to give a QB shot to in Josh Grady. Eventually Grady went to Vandy b/c they gave him a shot at QB and guess what? Grady is a WR at Vandy. Skip is a complete fool to not give Grady a legit shot at QB and transition him to Safety after his redshirt year.

i've wondered if Grady would have signed here if Skip would have just given him a shot at QB. What would it have hurt?

Skip took the high road and was honest with the young man that we wouldn't be a QB at USF. Vandy gave him a shot at QB knowing full well they wanted him at WR. It's a win-win situation that Skip totally screwed up at. So you bring Grady in at QB. What's the worst that can happen? He actually makes a successful back-up QB with a chance to play QB down the line; or he gets converted to where you want him and he slides in at safety a year later.

Looking at the team right now we can use both a QB and DB's. It's just another poor decision by Skip.

it actually would have established a better recruiting in at armwood as well. same when he pulled Carnes offer. it burnt a bridge at manatee bradenton. they are the #1 football program in the country and we haven't signed anyone from there under holtz.. scholarships aren't gold. sure these guys may not have been his type of qb but give them a chance to compete. that looks good to some high school coaches at the best programs in the area.if they get beat out then I'm sure they would want to get on field.

Edited November 26, 2012 by Bull94

[Triple B]

A. Woulard is Skips saving grace.

We need DB's and a pass rush more than we need a QB at this point. We should have taken a 3 star QB every year skip was here. Brion Carnes should have been the first (not to mention we might have gotten Ace Sanders with him).

Too pile on to Skip's inept QB recruiting. We had a guy that could have probably helped immensely with inroads at Armwood and the surrounding area that Skip flat out refused to give a QB shot to in Josh Grady. Eventually Grady went to Vandy b/c they gave him a shot at QB and guess what? Grady is a WR at Vandy. Skip is a complete fool to not give Grady a legit shot at QB and transition him to Safety after his redshirt year.

i've wondered if Grady would have signed here if Skip would have just given him a shot at QB. What would it have hurt?

Skip took the high road and was honest with the young man that we wouldn't be a QB at USF. Vandy gave him a shot at QB knowing full well they wanted him at WR. It's a win-win situation that Skip totally screwed up at. So you bring Grady in at QB. What's the worst that can happen? He actually makes a successful back-up QB with a chance to play QB down the line; or he gets converted to where you want him and he slides in at safety a year later.

Looking at the team right now we can use both a QB and DB's. It's just another poor decision by Skip.

it actually would have established a better recruiting in at armwood as well. same when he pulled Carnes offer. it burnt a bridge at manatee bradenton. they are the #1 football program in the country and we haven't signed anyone from there under holtz.. scholarships aren't gold. sure these guys may not have been his type of qb but give them a chance to compete. that looks good to some high school coaches at the best programs in the area.

How many did we sign before Holtz? Kinnan was one of the finalists along with Leavitt for the head coaching position here ... Doubt if being spurned for the job was a real bridge builder between us.

[Bull94]

A. Woulard is Skips saving grace.

We need DB's and a pass rush more than we need a QB at this point. We should have taken a 3 star QB every year skip was here. Brion Carnes should have been the first (not to mention we might have gotten Ace Sanders with him).

Too pile on to Skip's inept QB recruiting. We had a guy that could have probably helped immensely with inroads at Armwood and the surrounding area that Skip flat out refused to give a QB shot to in Josh Grady. Eventually Grady went to Vandy b/c they gave him a shot at QB and guess what? Grady is a WR at Vandy. Skip is a complete fool to not give Grady a legit shot at QB and transition him to Safety after his redshirt year.

i've wondered if Grady would have signed here if Skip would have just given him a shot at QB. What would it have hurt?

Skip took the high road and was honest with the young man that we wouldn't be a QB at USF. Vandy gave him a shot at QB knowing full well they wanted him at WR. It's a win-win situation that Skip totally screwed up at. So you bring Grady in at QB. What's the worst that can happen? He actually makes a successful back-up QB with a chance to play QB down the line; or he gets converted to where you want him and he slides in at safety a year later.

Looking at the team right now we can use both a QB and DB's. It's just another poor decision by Skip.

it actually would have established a better recruiting in at armwood as well. same when he pulled Carnes offer. it burnt a bridge at manatee bradenton. they are the #1 football program in the country and we haven't signed anyone from there under holtz.. scholarships aren't gold. sure these guys may not have been his type of qb but give them a chance to compete. that looks good to some high school coaches at the best programs in the area.

How many did we sign before Holtz? Kinnan was one of the finalists along with Leavitt for the head coaching position here ... Doubt if being spurned for the job was a real bridge builder between us.

we had a few. same with armwood. now we don't get any. that coach was livid with skip when he pulled Carnes' offer. he actually used his scholarship on Gumby. we got great value there. for the price of one lousy scholarship , he burnt the relationship with one of the best high schools in the area.

[bulliever78]

Injuries now are a legitimate excuse. They weren't before...but on top of everything else that could go wrong, we're hurting at every position. No injury more so than BJ's injury. What's remarkable is that this is of course what USF would look like without BJ....like a garbage....without 70-80% of the offense in there...he ran the entire show, everything ran through him. (Going into the last 2 years, it's been said by everyone, "Everything is on the shoulders of BJ...the team goes as BJ goes." Why did our coaches keep pileing more stuff on him, when he was incapable of carrying what was given him before? Moot point now...so nevermind.)

Coaching and general team mindset have been the greatest downfall this year though, no doubt. Coaching mistakes IN GAMES, and lack of coaching players to actually improve during practices have cost us numerous games. What's sad is that I can't just say that we lose because of bad coaching...we are also losing because our team just sucks. I really want them to be great and just have them being misguided by the coaching staff...but they're just not all that good either. Just as an example: For 2 year now, i've been talking up our wide receivers, how deep they are...how talented they are....

But that's it. they're talented...but not good receivers. They don't come back to help a QB under pressure, they don't fight for the ball in the air, they don't play defense to break up interceptions, they go down too easily. (BTW, I still put a lot of this on coaching or lack of it during the week.)

[RobGKee]

I hate Skip Holtz.

[hbryan]

I hate Skip Holtz.

Me too!! Never liked him, never will! I was a Leavitt guy that took heat when many on here wanted him gone. I knew we were good because Leavitt willed them to be that way in the early years. I thought we would be horrible under Holtz and then we went to Meineke and beat a decent Clemson team and I thought, well, maybe this will work out in spite of my inklings. Then the past two years happened and I have been slapped back into reality. Reality sucks sometimes.

[snarling Bull]

I hate Skip Holtz.

Me too and all of his excuses. Other teams play in low humidity, have injuries, have the same shape ball, and win more than 3 games in 1 season.

At least with Leavitt we went to bowl games

[Triple B]

Hate somebody because your team isn't winning ... You people are ****** up.

[Triple B]

A. Woulard is Skips saving grace.

We need DB's and a pass rush more than we need a QB at this point. We should have taken a 3 star QB every year skip was here. Brion Carnes should have been the first (not to mention we might have gotten Ace Sanders with him).

Too pile on to Skip's inept QB recruiting. We had a guy that could have probably helped immensely with inroads at Armwood and the surrounding area that Skip flat out refused to give a QB shot to in Josh Grady. Eventually Grady went to Vandy b/c they gave him a shot at QB and guess what? Grady is a WR at Vandy. Skip is a complete fool to not give Grady a legit shot at QB and transition him to Safety after his redshirt year.

i've wondered if Grady would have signed here if Skip would have just given him a shot at QB. What would it have hurt?

Skip took the high road and was honest with the young man that we wouldn't be a QB at USF. Vandy gave him a shot at QB knowing full well they wanted him at WR. It's a win-win situation that Skip totally screwed up at. So you bring Grady in at QB. What's the worst that can happen? He actually makes a successful back-up QB with a chance to play QB down the line; or he gets converted to where you want him and he slides in at safety a year later.

Looking at the team right now we can use both a QB and DB's. It's just another poor decision by Skip.

it actually would have established a better recruiting in at armwood as well. same when he pulled Carnes offer. it burnt a bridge at manatee bradenton. they are the #1 football program in the country and we haven't signed anyone from there under holtz.. scholarships aren't gold. sure these guys may not have been his type of qb but give them a chance to compete. that looks good to some high school coaches at the best programs in the area.

How many did we sign before Holtz? Kinnan was one of the finalists along with Leavitt for the head coaching position here ... Doubt if being spurned for the job was a real bridge builder between us.

we had a few. same with armwood. now we don't get any. that coach was livid with skip when he pulled Carnes' offer. he actually used his scholarship on Gumby. we got great value there. for the price of one lousy scholarship , he burnt the relationship with one of the best high schools in the area.

Who have we gotten out Manatee? .... And if Carnes had really wanted to come here, he would have. Wasn't that Skip's first year?