BigShoop Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 219 Content Count: 3,827 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/08/2003 Share Posted October 13, 2012 A quick peruse of the 1st page today, and everyone is on the "FIRE EVERYONE THEY'RE ALL THE WORST COACHES IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL" bandwagon. I think that 2007 was the worst thing that could happen to this program. Expectations were raised SO high and were completely unrealistic. Since that 5-0 start, fans and media alike have been trying to put USF back on that level, when the players on the field have not peformed at the level to warrant it..........not even close. They've competed at the level that their talent and coaching were capable of, which is not what fans and media expected, and therefore created a huge, fake sense of disappointment. The fans and media following this program have been watching FSU, UF, and UM play at such an elite level for such a long period of time, that it has become.....normal. USF football is proof that it is NOT normal and it is NOT easy to reach that level, much less maintain it. It's a huge uphill climb to reach that level, and you must. be. patient. when. climbing. that. mountain. - We've never had a top level recruiting class, so how does anyone expect to have a championship level team? - We've never had a 2nd string that pushed the 1st string for playing time, so how does anyone expect to be able to withstand injuries over a long season? - We've never had the money to spend on top level assistant(and head) coaching, so how does anyone expect individual players, individual groups of players, and the entire team to be coached and perform in a smart, efficient, mistake-free way? - We've never had an truly unstoppable, marquee player, on either side of the ball, who could take over a football game. - We've ony had 1 Quarterback in the history of the program, and it's no coincidence that he led our team to it's best season. What needs to be done to "fix" the apparent problems? I don't know. How it needs to be handled though, is obvious to me: patience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,736 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Don't agree totally with everything but the overall theme of the post is dead on .... especially the part about 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2012 The worst thing that happened was 2007? I'll take the travesty of beating auburn, WVU and unc over patiently losing to ball state and temple. But I am, admittedly, often unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShoop Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 219 Content Count: 3,827 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/08/2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I'm a believer of higher expectations.... It can motivate or it can kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) The worst thing that happened was 2007? I'll take the travesty of beating auburn, WVU and unc over patiently losing to ball state and temple. But I am, admittedly, often unreasonable. what is this guy saying? the worst thing to happen was to beat auburn and wvu ?? to be ranked #2?? no the worst thing was to lose to Temple and ball state. unbelievable. we've had more than 1 QB. obvioulsy not paying attention.blackwell, grothe, daniels, etc. 2 QBs in big east and they may both become total yardage leaders of all time in the conference. we had a guy who is now considered one of the most dominant defensive players in the NFL. so much for no marquee player. I'm so tired of the money excuse for coaches. we have the 2nd highest paid head coach in the big east. leavitt also rose to #2 in big east at one point everyone has a first and second string. everyone has a dropoff from first to second string. another excuse. we have been in the top half of recruiting in big east. nobody thinks we should win national championship. just compete for league title. Edited October 13, 2012 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2012 It was the best of times, it is the worst of times. fixed it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2012 So...according to that guy's logic, last year's accomplishments for the basketball team is probably the worst thing that ever happened to our BB program. What we did in 2007 is the best thing to ever happen to football. Anyone that doesn't have high expectations to start out has a loser's mentality. If you don't achieve at the highest level then you do what you need to do to get better. Anything less is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampabull Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 54 Content Count: 771 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2009 Share Posted October 13, 2012 So...according to that guy's logic, last year's accomplishments for the basketball team is probably the worst thing that ever happened to our BB program. What we did in 2007 is the best thing to ever happen to football. Anyone that doesn't have high expectations to start out has a loser's mentality. If you don't achieve at the highest level then you do what you need to do to get better. Anything less is unacceptable. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantation Pete Posted October 13, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 397 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) A quick peruse of the 1st page today, and everyone is on the "FIRE EVERYONE THEY'RE ALL THE WORST COACHES IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL" bandwagon. I think that 2007 was the worst thing that could happen to this program. Expectations were raised SO high and were completely unrealistic. Since that 5-0 start, fans and media alike have been trying to put USF back on that level, when the players on the field have not peformed at the level to warrant it..........not even close. They've competed at the level that their talent and coaching were capable of, which is not what fans and media expected, and therefore created a huge, fake sense of disappointment. The fans and media following this program have been watching FSU, UF, and UM play at such an elite level for such a long period of time, that it has become.....normal. USF football is proof that it is NOT normal and it is NOT easy to reach that level, much less maintain it. It's a huge uphill climb to reach that level, and you must. be. patient. when. climbing. that. mountain. - We've never had a top level recruiting class, so how does anyone expect to have a championship level team? - We've never had a 2nd string that pushed the 1st string for playing time, so how does anyone expect to be able to withstand injuries over a long season? - We've never had the money to spend on top level assistant(and head) coaching, so how does anyone expect individual players, individual groups of players, and the entire team to be coached and perform in a smart, efficient, mistake-free way? - We've never had an truly unstoppable, marquee player, on either side of the ball, who could take over a football game. - We've ony had 1 Quarterback in the history of the program, and it's no coincidence that he led our team to it's best season. What needs to be done to "fix" the apparent problems? I don't know. How it needs to be handled though, is obvious to me: patience. You need to just stop. Logic and common sense have absolutely no place on thebullspen and with a large segment of Bulls Fans. Edited October 13, 2012 by Plantation Pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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