zarnozdabull Posted July 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,433 Reputation: 883 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hawaii is reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama_Bull Posted July 26, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,207 Content Count: 18,470 Reputation: 899 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/14/2003 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hawaii is reasonable Great, another time zone to add to the mix. With that we definitely would have the largest geographical footprint. I'm assuming they would only be a football member. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted July 27, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Or how the ACC said they wanted Pitt and Cuse because it closed the gap between Marlyand and Boston College. Really? I thought it was because they have great basketball programs, and the ACC wanted to stick it to the Big East one more time with ESPN pulling the strings in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainesvillebull Posted July 27, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 211 Content Count: 1,829 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/06/2005 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Hopefully by then we'll be in the SEC. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco69 Posted July 27, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 15 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Why is everyone looking to the west? If I had my way, Boise and SDSU would be dropped, we try to convince Navy to go for full membership, and look for a full member east of the Mississippi. Notre Dame, Villanova, ECU, Army. I just think it would add stability to the conference if it was consolidated to east of the Mississippi River (Texas being the exception), and that all the football members were ful members. Just my 2 cents First, BOISE is the only marquee football team in the Big East. Second, having the conference in four different time zones is very attractive to TV. So, to drop Boise and time zones, would very much hurt the negotiating position of the Big East in the next TV contract. I would use the term "marquee" very loosely with Boise State. They've done very well, and have won several big games. I still question their ability to get up every week for conference games. USF has been able to get up for big games, but has yet to prove it can withstand the grind of a full season. I think Louisville and USF both can become marquee teams in the Big East without the western teams. As much as the tv contracts are fueling realignment, I don't see just Boise and SDSU bringing much tv revenue from the west coast. Personally, I see them as novelty acts for fans in the east. Plus, I think the distance from the rest of the conference makes them outsiders and not really part of the conference. Look at WVU in the Big XII. Or how the ACC said they wanted Pitt and Cuse because it closed the gap between Marlyand and Boston College. Like I said, I would like to see the conference focus not on expansion, but focus on the current locations and work on strengthening those schools together. I would agree that to a point BSU is still in the "novelty" stage of football strength. There will be no respect on a significant level until BSU does have similar success against superior competition on a week by week basis. The unfortunate thing is the bashing the Big East takes on a consistent basis that no matter what a team does here, it will have the same "stigma" that has been dogging us for a decade. I am not saying that this is an accurate perception of the BE programs, but it is the impression that most average college football fans have. The reason why losing Syracuse, Pitt, and WV hurts the perception so much is because these are names that people recognize. It has NOTHING to do with their performances over the past 10 years or more, but "image" is everything. As for possible future expansion, BYU should be the target and almost no matter what it takes to get them into the fold should be done. The Big 12 is pretty clear they have no interest in meeting BYU's demands (Sunday play is HUGE) incuding television rights. The PAC-12 has BYU so far off the radar culturally that there is not a chance they'd give them a serious look. AFA's coach had some really interesting comments at the MWC media days this week, expressing his reluctance to move to the BE or any other conference. He clearly has some juice in the discussions. That being said, Fresno would be a good addition because it would give the BE a second Cali school. If these invites were for all sports, academics, and the normal things University Presidents spout off as important, CSU would be a no brainer. But, being just football, only Fresno has the chache to bring to the table. Everyone else out west that would consider moving is in the bottow 20% of college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncentonze Posted July 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 116 Content Count: 1,517 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/2009 Share Posted July 28, 2012 UNLV i would take...every other year a trip to see my Bulls in Vegas...hell yeah. But honestly I hope by some miracle we end up in a better/more stable conference by then and then I really don't care who comes/goes from the BEast anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone24 Posted July 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 185 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2007 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I think it's handsdown UNLV, unless BYU changes their mind which I doubt b/c we would have to conceed to their wants. It is based primarily on three factors, one being they are a HUGE TV audience with no one to compete against in terms of professional teams. The second being they have the potential to be as big as any west coast school with their location, previous basketball achievements and follow the same pattern as current BE schools with being a large Metro school and I think their academics are somewhat sound? This third and biggest factor would be that in LV the thing that makes most college football games enjoyable to watch even if you don't know the teams is if you are betting on them! For the longest time LV has wanted a pro team in any sport but the gambling has kept them out, with this loophole we would potentially be offering up all of the East Coast schools where the gambling money is! I'm not saying its in our academic interest to make this change but it will bring about ten times more attention to all of our games on TV, which will be a bargaining chip for us when it comes in terms of a new TV contract. In my opinion if other institutions can screw us over for the mighty dollar than why can't we do what's in our best interest and only care about the financial situation a school can bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted July 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I think it's handsdown UNLV, unless BYU changes their mind which I doubt b/c we would have to conceed to their wants. It is based primarily on three factors, one being they are a HUGE TV audience with no one to compete against in terms of professional teams. The second being they have the potential to be as big as any west coast school with their location, previous basketball achievements and follow the same pattern as current BE schools with being a large Metro school and I think their academics are somewhat sound? This third and biggest factor would be that in LV the thing that makes most college football games enjoyable to watch even if you don't know the teams is if you are betting on them! For the longest time LV has wanted a pro team in any sport but the gambling has kept them out, with this loophole we would potentially be offering up all of the East Coast schools where the gambling money is! I'm not saying its in our academic interest to make this change but it will bring about ten times more attention to all of our games on TV, which will be a bargaining chip for us when it comes in terms of a new TV contract. In my opinion if other institutions can screw us over for the mighty dollar than why can't we do what's in our best interest and only care about the financial situation a school can bring. Says the man with the gangster name, LOL Seriously though, UNLV makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted July 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I hope we're not here, but I would like to see Airforce, BYU, or Colorado St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted July 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted July 28, 2012 dont see why anyone would want to join big east now from far west 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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