slbpsi63 Posted May 24, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 511 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/19/2006 Share Posted May 24, 2012 The likely response to the BOT meeting: http://tuxedoyoda.bl...tonight-if.html HOF Post!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted May 24, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Just.. Bravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Rock Da Bull Posted May 24, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 924 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/04/2010 Share Posted May 24, 2012 the tears! great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Clemson BOT issued statement through it's chair David Wilkins. It reads like a the informative Paul Simon song "30 ways to leave your conference". Like someone said to me "if you were to go on TV and say, "I love my wife, but if someone cute came along and made me an offer I couldn't refuse...." you might want to sleep with one eye open. “If we were contacted by a conference, we would obviously listen to what they had to say,†Wilkins said. “And then we would make a reasonable decision. We aren’t seeking that, and we aren’t making any overtures about that. I think we have a responsibility to consider any viable component that would come our way. But we haven’t been contacted by anybody. We just want Clemson athletics to be the best they can be. This board is committed to Clemson athletics.†http://www.tigernet.com/view/story.do?id=10631 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted May 25, 2012 At least they were direct and honest about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted May 25, 2012 At least they were direct and honest about it Snark alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,539 Reputation: 10,818 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted May 25, 2012 At least they were direct and honest about it Seems like that should be the canned statement all of them would give ... until they announce they're moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 1,204 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2007 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Clemson BOT issued statement through it's chair David Wilkins. It reads like a the informative Paul Simon song "30 ways to leave your conference". Like someone said to me "if you were to go on TV and say, "I love my wife, but if someone cute came along and made me an offer I couldn't refuse...." you might want to sleep with one eye open. “If we were contacted by a conference, we would obviously listen to what they had to say,†Wilkins said. “And then we would make a reasonable decision. We aren’t seeking that, and we aren’t making any overtures about that. I think we have a responsibility to consider any viable component that would come our way. But we haven’t been contacted by anybody. We just want Clemson athletics to be the best they can be. This board is committed to Clemson athletics.†http://www.tigernet....ory.do?id=10631 Translation: We would like to be approached, but we don't want to directly contact you. We prefer you take on the liability of a conference falling apart. I wonder where ESPN will end up in all of this. They do have part of the Big XII under contract, but not all of the games - I think they have tier 1. They have all the ACC. If the ACC dissolves and cannot honor its contract because the Big XII picks off some teams, would they sue them while also still airing their games? Could be a genius ploy by ESPN to increase their payouts and then sue to get some money back. It's still a question of it is stays at just two teams leaving. My guess is the B1G sees the big money deals that the lower rated BXII is getting and wants more. Adding more teams gets that done and grabbing UVA and UNC or Maryland and UNC also lets them meet academic standards. I'm not sure B1G will go beyond 14 unless UNC dictates that Duke must come along - and I'm not sure they would. VT and NC State probably would go SEC, with VT being the main prize in that package for them. So the ACC could be down to 6 or 8 teams, depending. Could be as few as four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I have no idea why any conference would want 14 teams. Scheduling becomes all kinds of weird. It makes more sense and is more symmetrical to have 16 or even 18 teams. With 16 you can have two nice divisions of eight teams each, or go to pods of four each. Either way you can improve scheduling, especially in the non-football sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted May 25, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Clemson BOT issued statement through it's chair David Wilkins. It reads like a the informative Paul Simon song "30 ways to leave your conference". Like someone said to me "if you were to go on TV and say, "I love my wife, but if someone cute came along and made me an offer I couldn't refuse...." you might want to sleep with one eye open. “If we were contacted by a conference, we would obviously listen to what they had to say,†Wilkins said. “And then we would make a reasonable decision. We aren’t seeking that, and we aren’t making any overtures about that. I think we have a responsibility to consider any viable component that would come our way. But we haven’t been contacted by anybody. We just want Clemson athletics to be the best they can be. This board is committed to Clemson athletics.†http://www.tigernet....ory.do?id=10631 I wonder where ESPN will end up in all of this. They do have part of the Big XII under contract, but not all of the games - I think they have tier 1. They have all the ACC. If the ACC dissolves and cannot honor its contract because the Big XII picks off some teams, would they sue them while also still airing their games? Could be a genius ploy by ESPN to increase their payouts and then sue to get some money back. What ESPN has come to realize is that through this process they can jettison some under performing products(Big East and ACC lower tier teams) and move the premium product into vehicles where they can offer them nice increases in annual payouts while reducing their overall payout and freezing out potential competitors. I'm not saying that they are excellently performing this Machiavellian feat, but they are definitely reading the tea leaves each day and strategizing the next set of moves. I mean these guys have Billions of dollars riding on this and they know they better not screw it up.ESPN made a very public statement the other day they talked about a composition clause that is standard in their contracts. In other words the minute the BE or ACC loses a team, their contract is subject to renegotiation. Boom goes the dynamite. Two scenarios, the Big East loses a ton of it's negotiating leverage because they lose teams to the ACC, or the ACC collapses when the BE picks over the scraps by offering a windfall in their new TV deal. Either way, ESPN saves money and captures the premium content market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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