Perfect example...

[theman123]

Michigan. Michigan fired lloyd Carr and brought in Rich Rod. He brought a completely new offense two years ago and the struggled greatly. Michigan went 3-9 with a home loss to Toledo.  Now they're 5-1 with a heisman candadite just two years later. Patience guys. Patiene.

[Bull Martin]

Michigan. Michigan fired lloyd Carr and brought in Rich Rod. He brought a completely new offense two years ago and the struggled greatly. Michigan went 3-9 with a home loss to Toledo.  Now they're 5-1 with a heisman candadite just two years later. Patience guys. Patiene.

Michigan's not good this year.  They had a very cream-puffy schedule.  They're not going to even come close to the Big 10 Title and will likely lose 4 of the next 6.

Michigan's a 7-5 football team this season.

[South_Florida_Flip]

I wouldn't call that a "perfect example" at all.

Michigan has no defense at all, which DickRod seemed to have brought from WVU.

[IncrediBULL]

What I hear from this post.

Mich changed coaches (as did USF)

3 years later, Mich is about an average team in a below average BCS conference.

So in 2012/2013 we can hope to be an average Big East team again?

Where do I sign up for that?

[Guest Scherdin]

Well it wasn't the best example...I'd go more with Bama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, Arkansas, East Carolina, etc.

All average programs that needed a couple years after a new coach to get the ship turned in the right direction

[Triple B]

Well it wasn't the best example...I'd go more with Bama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, Arkansas, East Carolina, etc.

All average programs that needed a couple years after a new coach to get the ship turned in the right direction

IMO, the only one of those programs that could be called average, and close to our situation, at the time of the change was Cincy and Kelly didn't need 2 years. He went 10-3 and 11-3. I'm not sure any of those could be called average when the changes occured. ECU was coming off 2 horrible years (1-11, 2-9) ...

[snarling Bull]

Agreed.

[Ghostofbigworm]

Well it wasn't the best example...I'd go more with Bama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, Arkansas, East Carolina, etc.

All average programs that needed a couple years after a new coach to get the ship turned in the right direction

Those are EXCEPTIONAL programs that were have rough times... A retarded goat could recruit well at those schools.  USF is a little different.

[hm101]

agreed. tired of the whining about holtz. let him do his thing.

[LETHALWEAPONMV]

Michigan. Michigan fired lloyd Carr and brought in Rich Rod. He brought a completely new offense two years ago and the struggled greatly. Michigan went 3-9 with a home loss to Toledo.  Now they're 5-1 with a heisman candadite just two years later. Patience guys. Patiene.

carr didnt get fired but retired FYI and Michigan won't be top 25 by end of year. they're not even now, except in USA today coaches' poll