LoneBull Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 901 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/09/2000 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Bobby,This is NOT about what McCullum won or lost, it's about Heath.He hasn't proven he can build a program at USF yet, I think we'll see some more issues down the road.Like any Bull older than 25, I would like to think we can build a program. It's a lot harder than three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nybullsfan Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Heath is doing a heck of a job. We've won back-to-back-to-back conference games including a win over Jamie Dixon's Pitt team. (he the winningest coach over the last five years in college basketball) - not to mention we beat #8 Marquette last year which was the first time we've beat a top 10 team since the presidency of Herbert Hoover or something. Heath is currently coaching up the top scorer in Big East - which is the deepest conference in the country.I think he deserves a ton of credit. It's been 20 years since anyone really has won on a major level at USF. Greenberg was alright, but I think he beat ONE ranked team in his entire USF career (texas).Greenberg never beat a ranked team, and last year's victory over Marquette remains our highest ranking victory to date, and the first and only time we've ever beaten a Top 10 team.[table][tr][td]Date[/td][td]Score[/td][td]Opponent[/td][td]Coach[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/12/1981[/td][td]@USF 70[/td][td]#18 South Alabama 54[/td][td]Lee Rose[/td][/tr][tr][td]12/28/1991[/td][td]@USF 85[/td][td]#23 Iowa 78[/td][td]Bobby Paschal[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/15/1992[/td][td]USF 70[/td][td]@#22 UNC Charlotte 63[/td][td]Bobby Paschal[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/24/1992[/td][td]USF 81[/td][td]@#15 Tulane 76[/td][td]Bobby Paschal[/td][/tr][tr][td]3/5/2005[/td][td]@USF 85[/td][td]#18 UNC Charlotte 73[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]3/10/2005[/td][td]USF 80[/td][td]#21 Cincinnati 68, CUSA Tourney[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]3/4/2006[/td][td]@USF 63[/td][td]#20 Georgetown 56[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/3/2007[/td][td]@USF 69[/td][td]#21 Notre Dame 63[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/6/2009[/td][td]@USF 57[/td][td]#8 Marquette 56[/td][td]Stan Heath[/td][/tr][tr][td]1/31/2010[/td][td]@USF 70[/td][td]#17 Pittsburgh 61[/td][td]Stan Heath[/td][/tr][/table] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBull Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 259 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Heath is doing a heck of a job. We've won back-to-back-to-back conference games including a win over Jamie Dixon's Pitt team. (he the winningest coach over the last five years in college basketball) - not to mention we beat #8 Marquette last year which was the first time we've beat a top 10 team since the presidency of Herbert Hoover or something. Heath is currently coaching up the top scorer in Big East - which is the deepest conference in the country.I think he deserves a ton of credit. It's been 20 years since anyone really has won on a major level at USF. Greenberg was alright, but I think he beat ONE ranked team in his entire USF career (texas).[table][tr][td]Date[/td][td]Score[/td][td]Opponent[/td][td]Coach[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/12/1981[/td][td]@USF 70[/td][td]#18 South Alabama 54[/td][td]Lee Rose[/td][/tr][tr][td]12/28/1991[/td][td]@USF 85[/td][td]#23 Iowa 78[/td][td]Bobby Paschal[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/15/1992[/td][td]USF 70[/td][td]@#22 UNC Charlotte 63[/td][td]Bobby Paschal[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/24/1992[/td][td]USF 81[/td][td]@#15 Tulane 76[/td][td]Bobby Paschal[/td][/tr][tr][td]3/5/2005[/td][td]@USF 85[/td][td]#18 UNC Charlotte 73[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]3/10/2005[/td][td]USF 80[/td][td]#21 Cincinnati 68, CUSA Tourney[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]3/4/2006[/td][td]@USF 63[/td][td]#20 Georgetown 56[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/3/2007[/td][td]@USF 69[/td][td]#21 Notre Dame 63[/td][td]Robert McCullum[/td][/tr][tr][td]2/6/2009[/td][td]@USF 57[/td][td]#8 Marquette 56[/td][td]Stan Heath[/td][/tr][tr][td]1/31/2010[/td][td]@USF 70[/td][td]#17 Pittsburgh 61[/td][td]Stan Heath[/td][/tr][/table]Under Greenberg we beat Texas at home one year when they were 25 in the ESPN poll but not ranked in the AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Some would argue it would be harder for Greenberg, with USF in C-USA, to field a team capable of beating a Top 25 team.We weren't playing at the highest level. We did have strong teams in C-USA - Louisville, etc., but I would think McCullum and Heath have an advantage in recruiting the kind of players able to beat a Top 25 team.Greenberg's problem was not beating Top 25 teams, it was beating teams in Conference USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted February 1, 2010 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 22,724 Reputation: 5,862 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Right now. Let's get on it. Best coached USF time I've seen since I came out of the womb. Pay the MAN! Go BullS!that boat has leftand so will heathhe should have been given one last yearour athletic dept is run by foolsit will now cost double to sign him but i am sure he will move on due to lack of respectAre these the same fools that you were going all ga ga over when they signed Skip Holtz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Some would argue it would be harder for Greenberg, with USF in C-USA, to field a team capable of beating a Top 25 team.We weren't playing at the highest level. We did have strong teams in C-USA - Louisville, etc., but I would think McCullum and Heath have an advantage in recruiting the kind of players able to beat a Top 25 team.Greenberg's problem was not beating Top 25 teams, it was beating teams in Conference USA.Also, Greenberg's teams played much fewer top 25 teams... less chances to win those types of games.We have 4 teams in the top 7 in the latest AP poll, and the Big East has had 9 or 10 different teams break into the rankings this season. When we were in CUSA... it was Memphis, sometimes Charlotte, and Louisville. any other ranked games were scheduled OOC, if we were lucky enough to get one.So its a combination of more talent, more exposure, and more games against ranked teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBull Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 259 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Also, Greenberg's teams played much fewer top 25 teams... less chances to win those types of games.We have 4 teams in the top 7 in the latest AP poll, and the Big East has had 9 or 10 different teams break into the rankings this season. When we were in CUSA... it was Memphis, sometimes Charlotte, and Louisville. any other ranked games were scheduled OOC, if we were lucky enough to get one.So its a combination of more talent, more exposure, and more games against ranked teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,982 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/12/2008 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Starting to get a little bit off topic here.This isn't about Greenberg, or McCullum.This is about Stan Heath the Current USF Men's Basketball Head Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted February 1, 2010 He's in Year 3 and we have won 3 straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted February 1, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Some would argue it would be harder for Greenberg, with USF in C-USA, to field a team capable of beating a Top 25 team.We weren't playing at the highest level. We did have strong teams in C-USA - Louisville, etc., but I would think McCullum and Heath have an advantage in recruiting the kind of players able to beat a Top 25 team.Greenberg's problem was not beating Top 25 teams, it was beating teams in Conference USA.Also, Greenberg's teams played much fewer top 25 teams... less chances to win those types of games.We have 4 teams in the top 7 in the latest AP poll, and the Big East has had 9 or 10 different teams break into the rankings this season. When we were in CUSA... it was Memphis, sometimes Charlotte, and Louisville. any other ranked games were scheduled OOC, if we were lucky enough to get one.So its a combination of more talent, more exposure, and more games against ranked teams.you forgot cincy, marquette, & UAB. all of them made it to at least the sweet sixteen while we were in c-usa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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