EduBull Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,679 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/07/2007 Share Posted January 4, 2008 While the salacious he said - she said details of a divorce are nothing but tabloid fodder, the accusations of academic dishonesty leveled against Ben Moffitt cannot be ignored. Ben Moffitt's fitness as a husband and father are not the University's business, but a college football player HAS to be a STUDENT athlete. If not then college athletics are just low-end pro farm teams, and there's no reason for a university to support it.USF MUST launch a full-scale and thorough investigation of this immediately, and make completely public everything it finds, no matter how damaging. Academic dishonesty CANNOT be tolerated. Period. I would rather have a football team of honest student-athletes who lose every season than a national championship team of academic cheaters. Anything else and our values as a university have gotten way out of whack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted January 4, 2008 : You think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduBull Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,679 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/07/2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 : You think? Yeah, I do. It has to be taken seriously and not just dismissed as the rantings of a scorned wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sheriff Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,754 Reputation: 806 Days Won: 19 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I'll take championships and cheaters... in the real world where non-teachers make money, people collaborate and work together... If college is suppose to prepare you for the next level, then mutual cooperation should be appropriate. Ben did the dishes... Shamu supposedly did his papers. That is teamwork.Personally, I could care less if USF has to forfeit the games this season or over the last five years... deep down... we know who won... so who cares what the end result is as long as we're still playing football this coming season!Go Bulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Here we go.I don't think anyone is dismissing the alleged cheating...USF is aware of that as Greg certainly made them aware on Thursday it appears. Of course they have to act - regardless of whether the allegations come from a scorned wife or anyone else. The cheating is the only story, not the other defacing of Moffitt's character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 21,144 Reputation: 4,649 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I am sure the University is going to dig into this 100% because remember they are students there. I just wish some of the personal details were left out of the public's consumption especially when we don't even know if certain things are true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 9,765 Reputation: 596 Days Won: 9 Joined: 08/05/2005 Share Posted January 4, 2008 How can they really prove anything? Sure she typed up the papers, haven't we all had someone do that while in college? A girlfriend, or someone who is quick at typing to make it easier. But if questioned about his notes, couldn't he say he's thrown them out already? Its really a he said/she said in my opinion. Just because she typed them up, doesn't mean she wrote them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Too bad she did not try to do some of his training, maybe they would still be together I'll take championships and cheaters... in the real world where non-teachers make money, people collaborate and work together... If college is suppose to prepare you for the next level, then mutual cooperation should be appropriate. Ben did the dishes... Shamu supposedly did his papers. That is teamwork. Personally, I could care less if USF has to forfeit the games this season or over the last five years... deep down... we know who won... so who cares what the end result is as long as we're still playing football this coming season! Go Bulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduBull Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,679 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/07/2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 Here we go.I don't think anyone is dismissing the alleged cheating...USF is aware of that as Greg certainly made them aware on Thursday it appears. Of course they have to act - regardless of whether the allegations come from a scorned wife or anyone else. The cheating is the only story, not the other defacing of Moffitt's character.Like I said, Ben Moffitt's fitness as a husband and father is between him and his family. It's none of our business. But academic cheating, if true, DOES impugn his character, period. If he cheated, he lowered the value of the degree of all USF alumni and defrauded every taxpayer in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 4, 2008 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If he cheated, he lowered the value of the degree of all USF alumni and defrauded every taxpayer in the state. Well that's a little dramatic and a certain exaggeration, but okay.Right on with the rest sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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