C4 Arrested Again...

[Guest JulmisteForPrez]

Moral relativity, my friend.

It's what's killing this once great nation of ours.

[WoolyBully]

Jaywalking vs Smoking Pot...Speeding vs Tresspassing

If you're jay-walking at a slow speed because you've torched a bowl and

accidently wander into a restricted area...I don't think that's gonna warrant getting

kicked out of school and never being a baller...

[twillybull]

I'm not going to bother anymore with this discussion because it has turned into a debate of personal character and morality of not just actions but also personal beliefs.

Well what about actually investigating the actions behind that arrest?  Before you throw out wild speculation in order to discredit the kid for something that is your personal beliefs, stop and check reality here.  You are verbally convicting this kid of things he was never arrested for, let alone criminally prosecuted for.  He was arrested for possesion for being in a dorm room with another kid that was actually in posession.  No charge of posession was ever pursued, meaning (A.) The cops made a mistake in arresting him along with the offender and there was no evidence linking him to actual posession, or (B.) He figured out how to get the police to bend the law and not press charges.  

Considering the fact he was re-arrested for trespassing on an arrest that was originally dismissed (a mistake resulting from unarguably a bad campus police procedure) it leads me to believe that choice "A" (the cops ****** up in the first place) is the more logical of explanations.    

He was not arrested nor charged with using, as you keep claiming.

[Ruger7mmmag]

No matter what, you can definitely say he's guilty of being a bad judge of character and poor decision making being in both situations.  When i was at USF, I knew who the potheads were and I **** sure wasn't going to be be in their rooms where police could walk in and this could all go down.  Fact is, we don't know anything.  For all we know, he could've given the weed to the friend when the cops came up so it didn't look like he had it.

Either way, shows bad judgement whether he's guilty or not and chances are he'll show bad judgement again in the future and won't be a bull.  I'm hoping that's not the case as he's a physical talent no doubt, but I've seen guys with more talent piss it away than he's got bc they made stupid decisions.

Hopefully he stays on the straight and narrow bc if we are going to be serious contenders; we need every talent we can get.

[WWMJD]

So, if I know someone is breaking the law, but I'm not actually breaking the law, then everything is fine. Oh wait, that's guilty by association. I know that there are plenty of underage drinkers and drug users at USF and every college, but that still does not excuse their behavior.

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If I had my way, but aparently victory comes above integrity for some.

Victory over integrity?  Get off your high horse.  Do you drive on campus?  If so, do you always obey the posted speed limit?  If you don't drive, have you ever jaywalked?  You mean to tell me you have never broken the law?  It's a matter of integrity, of course.  If you are driving above 10 mph then you are endangering your fellow students and I can only hope that you are expelled from USF for this reprehensible behavior.

Jaywalking vs Smoking Pot  ;D Speeding vs Tresspassing

I'm guesing by all the people condemning my stance, you don't care that he has knowingly broken team rules and laws several times now. How many chances can you give a guy that keeps making mistakes?

You are a ******* hypocrite.  You think that it is o.k. for you to break the laws YOU don't think are a big deal but condemn others when they do the same.  Let me say this... you are more of a danger to your fellow students if you are speeding than if you are holed up in your dorm room smoking pot.

[twillybull]

Ruger,

You can't say that he knew one way or another unless you witnessed this kid smoking in front of Carlton.   I tried out for a collegiate combat pistol team at my first college (USAFA) and was partnered up with a (now convicted) murderer.  We both handled loaded guns, shot and talked all day... he seemed like an upstanding citizen and a level-headed guy.  I didn't know he had killed a girl with a handgun until he was on the front page of the newspaper two days later.  Was that bad judgement on my part?  The point is you cannot hold someone responsible for the actions of another, unless that person has knowledge of the crime.    

I argue it was just as likely Carlton didn't know what this kid had and the cops went ahead and arrested him anyway.  Would the cops have arrested Carlton if he were white or maybe if he had a better understanding of his civil rights and put up more of an arguement?  WHO KNOWS?  It's an "if" question, but if he were really up to no good, they would have prosecuted him too.  

Do you really trust the judgement of a police force that arrested a kid based on a violation of a bad policy that wasn't really applicable as the original criminal charges were dropped?  This was the result of a bad system just as much as it was Carlton's "bad judgement".  

I'm saying give the kid a break allready.  He's worked hard at Community College for a second chance... that shows he's got more character than a lot of kids.  Let's not just throw him under the opinion bus.

[Triple B]

Moral relativity, my friend.

It's what's killing this once great nation of ours.

That and NASCAR...