Coaches and AP Polls: WVU/Rutgers 7 and 8

[BullsFanInTX]

TX,

CMU's SOS is 50th and they've lost 3 games, 2 of which are against ranked opponents

MTSU's SOS is 85th and they've lost to 3 ranked teams.

We've played the 109th ranked schedule and lost to 1 ranked team and two teams that are going to struggle to qualify for bowls.

Simply put we've played and beaten no one and as a result we aren't getting the respect. It can all change this week.

Well, I agree with you there.  I just though a few BE coaches would vote for us.  There is 6-5 teams getting votes.  I also think we'd be favored against CMU and MTSU (and Tulsa and Houston for that matter), so you could argue we're probably as deserving.  Oh well, it's only a couple votes.

[gobulls83]

Notre Dame vs USC is going to be pretty huge. No way does USC or Notre Dame get shut out of the championship game if one of them runs the table from here on out in my opinion.

Actually, they will.  Florida will be ahead of them in the Computer Polls last week, and are ahead of them in the Coaches poll this week (Harris poll is not out yet).

As long as Florida wins out, they will stay ahead of USC -- and in the National Championship game.

I think ND will if Michigan loses a close one to Ohio State. How would any voter put a 1 loss Michigan out of the title game over 1 loss ND.

Because Michigan beat Notre Dame 47-21 -- in South Bend.

ND needs a lot to happen to get in the title game.

If USC wins out they are in.

If USC loses and Florida wins out, Florida is in.

If USC and Florida lose and Arkansas wins out, it will come down to Rutgers, Arkansas, Michigan and ND for the final spot.

There are 100038493893 other combinations, should be interesting.

Florida is ahead and will stay ahead of USC. If both lose, it will be a OSU-Michigan rematch.

JMHO

Two things:

1. USC's schedule is harder to close the year than UF's, so they could still move up.

2. You're saying Mich. beating Notre Dame on the road is a reason, as Joe put it, voters will "put a 1 loss Michigan out of the title game over 1 loss ND?" Oh no, you just didn't read it in your haste to sound like a smartass. Got it.

[No_Willie_Jokes_Yet]

I think what we really need to route for is for one of our conference bretheren to be ranked #3 or 4 in the BCS who ISNT the conference champ. If that happensf then our conference champ gets a BCS bowl and the #3 or#4 team gets the FIRST at large spot. Thus giving us 2 BCS bowl teams and then ND, well they should meet their requirements for an at large spot. Boise State needs to lose or the ACC champ has to get ranked higher and Boise drops out of the top 12.

[Economics_Nerd82]

Remember, the computer portion of the BCS poll is made up of 6 polls. The lowest computer score is thrown out as is the highest. So, although Saragin has them at #2 (which is amazing) that may be thrown out.

[windbane]

We'll get votes if we beat UL.  Would be 3-game winning streak in BIg East.

Rematch of OSU and Michigan I still don't think would happen unless every team inbetween them loses after they play.  Also, how is it fair to have a season-ending showdown and beat an undefeated team, then have to play them again for the title?  You go 1-1 in back-to-back games and only 1 team gets the title?  Lame.

[Joe]

By my comments I meant that the 1 loss Michigan would be ahead of the 1 loss ND for the title game. Should be:

I think ND will be left out if Michigan loses a close one to Ohio State. How would any voter put a 1 loss Michigan out of the title game over 1 loss ND.

Sorry bout that.

[Guest]

Notre Dame vs USC is going to be pretty huge. No way does USC or Notre Dame get shut out of the championship game if one of them runs the table from here on out in my opinion.

Actually, they will.  Florida will be ahead of them in the Computer Polls last week, and are ahead of them in the Coaches poll this week (Harris poll is not out yet).

As long as Florida wins out, they will stay ahead of USC -- and in the National Championship game.

I think ND will if Michigan loses a close one to Ohio State. How would any voter put a 1 loss Michigan out of the title game over 1 loss ND.

Because Michigan beat Notre Dame 47-21 -- in South Bend.

ND needs a lot to happen to get in the title game.

If USC wins out they are in.

If USC loses and Florida wins out, Florida is in.

If USC and Florida lose and Arkansas wins out, it will come down to Rutgers, Arkansas, Michigan and ND for the final spot.

There are 100038493893 other combinations, should be interesting.

Florida is ahead and will stay ahead of USC. If both lose, it will be a OSU-Michigan rematch.

JMHO

Two things:

1. USC's schedule is harder to close the year than UF's, so they could still move up.

2. You're saying Mich. beating Notre Dame on the road is a reason, as Joe put it, voters will "put a 1 loss Michigan out of the title game over 1 loss ND?" Oh no, you just didn't read it in your haste to sound like a smartass. Got it.

I never try to sound like a smart ass without at least putting some ;-) in my post.  

Besides, it's better to be a smart ass than a dumb ass... ;-) ;-) ;-)

1. USC's schedule is harder than Florida's... but not by THAT much to matter.  Cal, ND, UCLA ... W Carolina, Florida State, and Arkansas.  If Florida wins out, they will be at least #3 in the BCS if not #2.

2. I was not contradicting Joe, I was reminding people why Michigan would get the nod over Notre Dame.

[Guest]

I think what we really need to route for is for one of our conference bretheren to be ranked #3 or 4 in the BCS who ISNT the conference champ. If that happensf then our conference champ gets a BCS bowl and the #3 or#4 team gets the FIRST at large spot. Thus giving us 2 BCS bowl teams and then ND, well they should meet their requirements for an at large spot. Boise State needs to lose or the ACC champ has to get ranked higher and Boise drops out of the top 12.

You are right, but they reversed the 'automatic' order this year...

1. #1 and #2 get automatic bids.

2. The remaining BCS conference champions (it's conceivable but highly unlikely that - if everyone loses 1 game - that #1 or #2 could be a non-champion).

3. One champion of a lesser conference that finishes in the Top 12, or Top 16 and ahead of a BCS conference champion.

4. Notre Dame if they are in the Top 8.

5. The #3 team, if they are not a conference champion.

6. The #4 team, if they are not a conference champion and #3 was a conference champion.

Then the remaining slots would be filled by any team in the Top 14 with nine wins.

So Boise State and Notre Dame would still get their "At Large" Bids before a #3/#4 Big East non-champion (Louisville is the only team that could get this).

[No_Willie_Jokes_Yet]

I think what we really need to route for is for one of our conference bretheren to be ranked #3 or 4 in the BCS who ISNT the conference champ. If that happensf then our conference champ gets a BCS bowl and the #3 or#4 team gets the FIRST at large spot. Thus giving us 2 BCS bowl teams and then ND, well they should meet their requirements for an at large spot. Boise State needs to lose or the ACC champ has to get ranked higher and Boise drops out of the top 12.

You are right, but they reversed the 'automatic' order this year...

1. #1 and #2 get automatic bids.

2. The remaining BCS conference champions (it's conceivable but highly unlikely that - if everyone loses 1 game - that #1 or #2 could be a non-champion).

3. One champion of a lesser conference that finishes in the Top 12, or Top 16 and ahead of a BCS conference champion.

4. Notre Dame if they are in the Top 8.

5. The #3 team, if they are not a conference champion.

6. The #4 team, if they are not a conference champion and #3 was a conference champion.

Then the remaining slots would be filled by any team in the Top 14 with nine wins.

So Boise State and Notre Dame would still get their "At Large" Bids before a #3/#4 Big East non-champion (Louisville is the only team that could get this).

So then we want ND ranked #9 and to still get an at large spot, just after #4 UofL gets theirs?

There are four at large spots this year. Lets hope UofL can get one of them and Rutgers takes an automatic qualifier spot.

Not only does that possibly mean a better bowl for us, but it means more money to us also. Probably another 400k or so from the revenue sharing.

[BullsFanInTX]

In the BE, Petrino, Rodriquez, Edsell, and Schiano have votes in coaches poll.  I am very suprised Edsell and Schiano didn't vote for USF since we spanked Uconn and played RU basically even.