Greenzer0 Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 201 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2004 Share Posted January 6, 2006 if they're offended, they could just go somewhere else.Or, be like Rickythebull and just stay at home.If we didn't have the Junior bulls section then I probably would be at home. I think it is unfortunate that I feel this way. I'm not trying to shelter my kids from the realities of the world but I don't want them growing up thinking that is perfectly acceptable to get trashed and say whatever the f__k they want to say in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFCollin Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 137 Content Count: 866 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Collin's Guide to Cursing at Collegiate Sporting Events:No one should ever hear the F-bomb more than a seat or two away from you. If you want to mumble something to yourself as in "F-ing dammit" after we drop a pass, that's fine. But yelling "you F-ing suck Johnson" at a player or coach at the top of your lungs is trashy and inane. There are times I've said to myself and those around me "what the F are we doing?" during a game. That's just frustration and wanting to see us succeed. But screaming it where three entire sections can hear you loud and clear is just inappropriate. Our students and fans yelling "this is F-ing bull$hit" in Charlotte was ridiculous. Absolutely classless and stupid. Its a small minority, but every fan base has its morons. Until we start giving out a test before you can buy season and bowl game tickets (how awesome would that be, I'll be more than happy to write it), we just have to educate or shame these people until they shut up. Any kind of profanity is never, EVER to be directed towards any student-athlete. The kid is out there playing for a scholarship that doesn't even equate to minimum wage. He/she is not a professional. "Johnson, you're a bit**" is completely out of bounds. You should get tossed for that, whether its a USF player or not. Its not EVER the kid's fault. And if a player is the road creative abuse from the student body can be quite fun.... but profanity isn't creative abuse. Say whatever you want about the coaches, they get paid. But a "Johnson you're a F-ing idiot" doesn't help either. Again, keep it clean. And back up your thesis with examples, don't just yell "you suck." The "Bull$hit" chant is only appropriate under drastic circumstances, and we WAY overuse it. We committed a crystal clear pass interference penalty in our own end zone in Charlotte, and our students started in with the chant practically before the flag hit the ground. Don't be an idiot sports fan. If its close go ahed and scream at an official, that's just trying to create an advantage. But its true, your beloved Bulls actually sometimes commit penalties. Shocking, but true. Save the BS for when its really needed. Personally I have a tendency to invoke the name of many peoples Lord and savior, but I use his full name of "Jesus H Christ" (no, I don't know what the H stands for, I think its like the S. in Harry S. Truman). Still not appropriate, and I really try not to do it. I understand fan frustration probably more than anyone... but profanity just isn't appropriate in the student section or anywhere else. Scream your head off, make yourself heard... but keep it clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80mins Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 191 Content Count: 2,363 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2005 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Well put Collin. And,Personally I have a tendency to invoke the name of many peoples Lord and savior, but I use his full name of "Jesus H Christ" (no, I don't know what the H stands for, I think its like the S. in Harry S. Truman). The H is actually for Howard, after His dad. "Our father, who art in heaven, Howard be thy name" ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLfreak Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 646 Content Count: 7,890 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/2004 Share Posted January 6, 2006 and the book is know closed thanks to the fine words from Collin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 188 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/15/2003 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I totally agree that everyone needs to watch the language around the kids.  The way I was brought up as a man I also watch my language around the ladies.  I may be an old fuddy duddy (44) and I know some of the women these days have worse mouths than some of the guys, but thats the way I was brought up.  Around my buddies I may not use the best language, but around women and children I try to watch what I say.  I guess I figure if my Dad heard me say some words around women and children he would come back from the grave and whip my backside, deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster534 Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 77 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2005 Share Posted January 6, 2006 The "Bull$hit" chant is only appropriate under drastic circumstances, and we WAY overuse it.  We committed a crystal clear pass interference penalty in our own end zone in Charlotte, and our students started in with the chant practically before the flag hit the ground.  Don't be an idiot sports fan.  If its close go ahed and scream at an official, that's just trying to create an advantage.  But its true, your beloved Bulls actually sometimes commit penalties.  Shocking, but true.  Save the BS for when its really needed.  Colin...that's exactly what I was trying to say in my previous post. I'm not saying don't participate in the game. That is far from what I'm saying. Using that chant when it is uncalled for reflects poorly on the fans and shows ignorance about the game. But it seems like bullfreak understands now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDoug Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 469 Content Count: 4,451 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/27/2001 Share Posted January 6, 2006 While I am partial to the F-bomb during a moment of anger and pain, in my world its only appropriate in a lockerroom, an all adult male social gathering and then you still need to curb it best as possible. IMO, excessive profanity is an example of gross ignorance. I find excessive sarcasm & humor are much better ways to express yourself during levels of elevated frustration. Now stating this by no means do I follow these rules 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted January 6, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,472 Reputation: 1,899 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Cursing is going to happen. Even the most chaste of us let a few words slip in the heat of the moment. If you raise your kids correctly, hearing a few words of curse at a football game is not going to make a scintilla of difference. Seeing a drunk slob drop an f-bomb or two might actually be good for a properly raised child, so they know precisely why they shouldn't drink and use that type of language. We all have our personal opinions and preferences regarding swearing, but you also have to realize that it is not a crime. I personally do not like some of the wardrobe decisions of many of the fans at the game or the way they wear their hair, but it is none of my business. If an adult lets out a few words at a game, oh well. Now if that denegrates into every other word being an f-bomb and he becomes beligerent and makes it difficult for others around him to watch and enjoy the game, that is another story. Determining where your rights end and mine begin is always a tricky science, but when an entire football section is made uncomfortable by the LOUD and REPEATED acts of one fan, that is a pretty obvious case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullman3 Posted January 7, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 160 Content Count: 1,378 Reputation: 58 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/23/2003 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Whats the point, the only ones who can hear you is the people around you. Nobody remotely close to the field can hear you, so really it just sounds ignorant and classless. I never understood the people who shout at the coach, refs, etc who sit in the upper 1st level or even 2nd level. THEY CANT HEAR YOU!!! Even sitting in Row A in Level 1 they cant hear people on the field. When its quiet, people on the sidelines can hear those in ROW A, but certainly not much beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted January 7, 2006 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,788 Reputation: 865 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted January 7, 2006 It's been my experience that the people letting it fly at the top of their lungs are actually screaming for attention. I'll let one slip from time to time but not to the point of one complete sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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