if tv drives the realignment of conferences

[CousinRicky]

5 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

remember their glory days in the Big East......they had some pretty good teams and played some big time games against top 10 competition. I wonder if their fans are happy with the move up now that they've had 10 years to compare.

They must be. The school is bringing in more income. 

[Outlaw]

12 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

They must be. The school is bringing in more income. 

I suppose it is better the suck and make more a lot more money. Eventually the bad programs of all the major conferences (sec/b1g) will have to accept less money or be removed from conference. You can pay 20 schools north of 70+million per year when only a few  of them have been ranked consistently in the top 25.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Outlaw

[Jim Johnson]

1 hour ago, smazza said:

The Tampa Bay area is the nation's 11th-largest TV market and largest TV Market(DMA) in the state of Florida, according to Nielsen Media Research,^[5] with 1,822,550 TV households.

That is from 2015.  (Click the little "5")
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The Tampa-St Petersburg-Sarasota, FL designated market area (DMA) is a U.S. television market serving the people in the state of Florida. It is the 13th biggest media market by size in the United States, with a total population of 2,068,720 TV households as of the 2022-2023 television season, up +1% from that of the 2021-2022 season.

Nielsen DMA Rankings 2023

USTVDB.COM

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by Jim Johnson

[Sk00b]

7 hours ago, Bull94 said:

Rutgers will eventually be cut once Big 10 starts to consolidate. Probably their next tv deal.

Yep. We are seeing expansion and we will see some down sizing next.

[WoolyBully]

3 hours ago, Sk00b said:

Yep. We are seeing expansion and we will see some downsizing next.

Yeah, I can see that on the agenda down the road. Basically we (and you know who we are) want to consolidate the best of the best into our product and, should the need arise, have some programs pick up a box at the receptionist desk for their personal effects. I suspect that every school already is thinking along those lines and, if they can't compete (bring in revenue) they know that they should collect as much of a benefit as possible right now until the gravy train comes to a screeching halt. I know I can't wait for the Maryland USC or the Rutgers UCLA games...just not sure they're gonna be a permanent fixture. 

[Bull Matrix]

11 minutes ago, WoolyBully said:

Yeah, I can see that on the agenda down the road. Basically we (and you know who we are) want to consolidate the best of the best into our product and, should the need arise, have some programs pick up a box at the receptionist desk for their personal effects. I suspect that every school already is thinking along those lines and, if they can't compete (bring in revenue) they know that they should collect as much of a benefit as possible right now until the gravy train comes to a screeching halt. I know I can't wait for the Maryland USC or the Rutgers UCLA games...just not sure they're gonna be a permanent fixture. 

They will basically look and listen to what the money payers tell them. If a school is getting bad grades with media and not bringing any eye balls they will probably get demoted for the next media deal 

[Gismo]

11 hours ago, jchem1995 said:

But we are AAU and fsu is not. Big tipping point imo.

It’s about football ratings and average viewership.

 

FSU has a much more viewers and fans. 
 

Certainly USF would pick up a ton of viewers with a big 10 schedule, but other big 10 fans would have less enthusiasm, and it wouldn’t be as many as FSU would bring.

There is a pecking order.

 

Big10 and SEC at the top. Their members don’t leave. They poach from one level below, which is the PAC, ACC, and Big12. 

 

Second tier is ACC, Big12, and PAC. Member schools jump ship to the Big10 or SEC if they can. These 3 poach from the G5 conferences, the AAC. 
 

Last is the AAC and other group of 5 conferences. Their member schools jump ship. 
 

The Big10 and the SEC are not going to reach down the G5 schools like USF. The current G5 are the rejects from the days of the Big East. 

 
 

 

[Bull Matrix]

2 minutes ago, Gismo said:

It’s about football ratings and average viewership.

 

FSU has a much more viewers and fans. 
 

Certainly USF would pick up a ton of viewers with a big 10 schedule, but other big 10 fans would have less enthusiasm, and it wouldn’t be as many as FSU would bring.

There is a pecking order.

 

Big10 and SEC at the top. Their members don’t leave. They poach from one level below, which is the PAC, ACC, and Big12. 

 

Second tier is ACC, Big12, and PAC. Member schools jump ship to the Big10 or SEC if they can. These 3 poach from the G5 conferences, the AAC. 
 

Last is the AAC and other group of 5 conferences. Their member schools jump ship. 
 

The Big10 and the SEC are not going to reach down the G5 schools like USF. The current G5 are the rejects from the days of the Big East. 

 
 

 

Exactly! Only reason big 12 picked up g5 AAC schools because they basically had no other choice at that time. Now they were able to help knock out PAC. I believe it will have to take ACC losing FSU before they give USF a good look imo

[Gismo]

Sounds the Big10 really screwed Rutgers and Maryland. And made the contracts secret!!!!

‘Unsustainable’: How Rutgers athletics quietly racked up $265M in debt

WWW.NORTHJERSEY.COM

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This was the year Rutgers University athletics expected to be on firm...

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Additionally, a number of Rutgers officials have signed confidentiality and non-disclosure agreements with the Big Ten, including Holloway, Hobbs and Gower.

Lesniak, a staunch supporter of Rutgers athletics, said any contract with a state university should be available for the public to see. He had been behind the bill that gave Rutgers $25 million in tax credits for new buildings, and his foundation paid for a study highlighting the benefits of joining the Big Ten.

“We're putting taxpayer dollars into this,” he said. “We should have access to the contract.”

A former member of Maryland’s governing body protested that school’s entrance into the Big Ten because of the secrecy. He said that board members were not given details about the agreement with the conference, including Maryland’s loans from the Big Ten, which tax records show have ballooned to more than $113 million.
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[Gismo]

Also a bit shocking how much Rutgers ticket revenue has decreased since they’ve been losers in the Big 10.