SilverBull Posted July 4, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,467 Reputation: 1,435 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Bull Matrix said: Don’t be surprised if it ends up being 62-14. That should not ruin the trip. Enjoy the travel & adventures I am still trying to recover from NC State trip a couple years ago. I was struggling with heart issues and that one almost finished the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted July 4, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,467 Reputation: 1,435 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, belgianbull said: The mark for me will be at least 4 wins. Anything below that and Mike Kelly has to be fired. Why not just make it anything less than undefeated? If we're going that way, let's get it over with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted July 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,046 Reputation: 1,033 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, SilverBull said: Why not just make it anything less than undefeated? If we're going that way, let's get it over with. I am hoping we can get more then the 4 wins, but if Golesh comes out and only wins 3 games (or less), after the last 5 years we would have no choice but to fire Kelly. It would be 5 years where we got 4 wins, 1 win, 2 wins, 1 win, 3 wins. I hope it doesn't come to that but having a clear marker where we need to see at least 4 wins is not unreasonable. Any other line of work and Kelly would have been fired already. And I don't buy the OCS argument. We are building the OCS because we have no choice after being left behind again in conference realignment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted July 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Brad said: North Texas next year, Charlotte in ‘26. Lotta teams, lotta teams. We are playing Charlotte this season during Thanksgiving weekend in front of what I am guessing will be about 17k through the turnstiles at RayJay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 4, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, SilverBull said: Why not just make it anything less than undefeated? If we're going that way, let's get it over with. My bar is 5 wins to show real improvement and erase the biggest lose from USF history. Anything less in a weakened aac and soft schedule is no Bueno. There are eleven teams with decent coaching and player performance we should not get blown out by. Edited July 4, 2023 by Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted July 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted July 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, belgianbull said: I am hoping we can get more then the 4 wins, but if Golesh comes out and only wins 3 games (or less), after the last 5 years we would have no choice but to fire Kelly. It would be 5 years where we got 4 wins, 1 win, 2 wins, 1 win, 3 wins. I hope it doesn't come to that but having a clear marker where we need to see at least 4 wins is not unreasonable. Any other line of work and Kelly would have been fired already. And I don't buy the OCS argument. We are building the OCS because we have no choice after being left behind again in conference realignment We could go 1-11 again and Kelly won’t be fired IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 4, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, USFRaider said: We are playing Charlotte this season during Thanksgiving weekend in front of what I am guessing will be about 17k through the turnstiles at RayJay. I think it alot of it depends on our record at the time could be 5k ot 22k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted July 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Outlaw said: I think it alot of it depends on our record at the time could be 5k ot 22k. I don’t think the record will matter. Many students will be home for Thanksgiving break and the casual fan is not going to show up on a holiday weekend for Charlotte. Not sure how well Charlotte fans travel but I am assuming they won’t be much of a presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted July 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,046 Reputation: 1,033 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, USFRaider said: We could go 1-11 again and Kelly won’t be fired IMO. And I think you are probably right. I think that's the reason why we are near the bottom in both men's basketball and football; a lack of accountability. There is no other program that would tolerate the amount of losing we have. Look at FAU that just fired Taggart. Ask Outlaw what probably would have happened at USF under Kelly in the same circumstances. If we win one game next year after 4 wins, 1 win, 2 wins, and 1 win and Kelly isn't fired than I don't know what to say. Especially if you consider how bad we have been in men's basketball as well. That said I fully expect us to win at least 4 games, and all this will probably all be moot Edited July 4, 2023 by belgianbull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted July 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, belgianbull said: And I think you are probably right. I think that's the reason why we are near the bottom in both men's basketball and football; a lack of accountability. There is no other program that would tolerate the amount of losing we have. Look at FAU that just fired Taggart. Ask Outlaw what probably would have happened at USF under Kelly in the same circumstances. If we win one game next year after 4 wins, 1 win, 2 wins, and 1 win and Kelly isn't fired than I don't know what t say. Especially if you consider how bad we have been in men's basketball as well. That said I fully expect us to win at least 4 games, and all this will probably be moot I just think the Powers that be will allow Kelly’s hire, Golesh, to have three seasons, before they make any decisions on Kelly. If Golesh ends up being another Charlie Strong or Jeff Scott then Kelly won’t be hiring the next coach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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