El_Toro_86 Posted March 27, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,661 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Serious question. Are there any other ADs in the country that have the title of Vice President of Athletics? What in his resume warranted that title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted March 27, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, El_Toro_86 said: Serious question. Are there any other ADs in the country that have the title of Vice President of Athletics? What in his resume warranted that title? His title also implies that there is a President of Athletics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted March 27, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: Serious question. Are there any other ADs in the country that have the title of Vice President of Athletics? What in his resume warranted that title? You know there is this website you might have heard of, called "Google", that you can use to search for that? (sorry, had to be snarky) Yes, there are dozens of them... from smaller schools up to schools like Duke and Rutgers and Arkansas and Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted March 27, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,661 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Jim Johnson said: You know there is this website you might have heard of, called "Google", that you can use to search for that? (sorry, had to be snarky) Yes, there are dozens of them... from smaller schools up to schools like Duke and Rutgers and Arkansas and Houston So what in his background warranted that title? He never ran an athletic program before. You would think that someone that gets the title of VPA would have at least shown competence as an AD at another school before getting the title of VPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted March 27, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: So what in his background warranted that title? He never ran an athletic program before. You would think that someone that gets the title of VPA would have at least shown competence as an AD at another school before getting the title of VPA. Not necessarily... the VP title is the name of the position now. If/when Kelly leaves, the next person will be VP of Athletics as well. It's about the job not the resume. Andrew Goodrich (former USFer) is the VP of Athletics at Gardner-Webb, which is his first gig as a full AD anywhere. You might ask, what in his background warranted being named AD at one of the 100+ largest universities in the nation. That would be a fair question to ask (although more realistic back in 2018). Although I would say his resume fits with a Vice President-level role - after serving as COO of the CFP and Associate Commissioner of the ACC. Most likely when Harlan left, USF decided to change the title to get a different caliber of candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 27, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: So what in his background warranted that title? He never ran an athletic program before. You would think that someone that gets the title of VPA would have at least shown competence as an AD at another school before getting the title of VPA. This is one I actually understand, someone that is at the c level in their organization isn’t going to take a title of director and while there is likely no difference in anything other than the title it looks like a pretty big drop on your CV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 27, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Jim Johnson said: Not necessarily... the VP title is the name of the position now. If/when Kelly leaves, the next person will be VP of Athletics as well. It's about the job not the resume. Andrew Goodrich (former USFer) is the VP of Athletics at Gardner-Webb, which is his first gig as a full AD anywhere. You might ask, what in his background warranted being named AD at one of the 100+ largest universities in the nation. That would be a fair question to ask (although more realistic back in 2018). Although I would say his resume fits with a Vice President-level role - after serving as COO of the CFP and Associate Commissioner of the ACC. Most likely when Harlan left, USF decided to change the title to get a different caliber of candidates. I highly doubt you will attract any better candidates by the title change but it’s completely understandable why we would accommodate a title change for someone coming from the c level in their organization. That’s a pretty normal concession and the meaning of titles like vp and director tend to wildly differ from one organization to another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman1 Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Bull Nut said: His title also implies that there is a President of Athletics Who is this supposed POA and where is the TBP thread calling for his/her immediate termination? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted March 28, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,508 Reputation: 1,262 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 I would like to be the Vice President of thebullspen.com operations. How do I apply for this position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted March 28, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,467 Reputation: 1,435 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted March 28, 2023 12 hours ago, bowman1 said: Who is this supposed POA ... ? This has a lot of different meanings but I'm not sure which applies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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