Gat-Rat Bull Posted October 19, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 34 Content Count: 1,733 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2017 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I enjoy sports history. I'm wondering if there is any tangible direct relationship between past teams' win-loss records and future teams' records. I'm sure there are one or two sports geniuses on TBP that can answer that for us. Standing by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted October 19, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,374 Reputation: 945 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Bull94 said: I'm not putting anyone down. It sucks that we missed our opportunity. Fact is the ones that were just called up proved it on the field. we didn't. clearly the big 12 wasn't as impressed by our history as some of our fans.potential wasn't going to get it done this time. I guess we all should just cry and complain constantly now. or maybe we should prove it on the field before we declare ourselves superior. That's not happening. You're making crap up now Again, no **** we need to win on the field. Nobody's "declaring" anything You're again making stuff up because you're comment that we haven't accomplished anything doesn't hold water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted October 20, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,638 Reputation: 3,323 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, BDYZR said: To bad life doesn’t work that way. The strong keep working to get up the hill no matter how many times they’re knocked down. The weak whine about it. When you get paid nicely to fail and moving your program further away from winning and a power conference you should be held accountable. There is a difference in being honest about terrible run under the current AD and asking for accountability then being weak. Edited October 20, 2023 by Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted October 20, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,374 Reputation: 945 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Outlaw said: When you get paid nicely to fail and moving your program further away from winning and a power conference you should be held accountable. There is a difference in being honest about terrible run under the current AD and asking for accountability then being weak. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted October 20, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: When you get paid nicely to fail and moving your program further away from winning and a power conference you should be held accountable. There is a difference in being honest about terrible run under the current AD and asking for accountability then being weak. Which has absolute zero with leaving the past in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted October 20, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Gat-Rat Bull said: I enjoy sports history. I'm wondering if there is any tangible direct relationship between past teams' win-loss records and future teams' records. I'm sure there are one or two sports geniuses on TBP that can answer that for us. Standing by... Not a genius, but I will take a stab at it. Year-to-year yes. Teams that learn how to win and handle attention pass those skills on to new team members as they join. The same is true that losing begets losing... and why it takes Herculean-type efforts to move from a losing program to a winning program. One of the big catalysts for that is getting to bowl eligibility because it allows for additional practices, when losing teams are not allowed contact with coaches. The transfer rules will have some impact, but outside of a QB, any one player won't have as much impact. (As opposed to the other team sports, where one player is a larger % of the team on the field/pitch/court.) So teams can go quite a while winning more than losing ... going 7-5 or 8-4 most years with the occasional 11-1 season. Consider Central Michigan, South Carolina, and Boston College Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gat-Rat Bull Posted October 20, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 34 Content Count: 1,733 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2017 Share Posted October 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Jim Johnson said: Not a genius, but I will take a stab at it. Year-to-year yes. Teams that learn how to win and handle attention pass those skills on to new team members as they join. The same is true that losing begets losing... and why it takes Herculean-type efforts to move from a losing program to a winning program. One of the big catalysts for that is getting to bowl eligibility because it allows for additional practices, when losing teams are not allowed contact with coaches. The transfer rules will have some impact, but outside of a QB, any one player won't have as much impact. (As opposed to the other team sports, where one player is a larger % of the team on the field/pitch/court.) So teams can go quite a while winning more than losing ... going 7-5 or 8-4 most years with the occasional 11-1 season. Consider Central Michigan, South Carolina, and Boston College Nice analysis. So, outside of the obvious "blue blood" college programs there's nothing really inherently unique in what we've seen with USF football win-loss records in our short history. I know we are all looking forward to our turn on the upswing side of this roller coaster ride. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBulls84 Posted October 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 43 Content Count: 3,899 Reputation: 871 Days Won: 8 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) On 10/19/2023 at 4:29 PM, Mike Stuben said: So, here is the history..... We were planning on joining C-USA in 2001, when we went I-A, but one school blocked it, UAB. UAB was bitter that they were made to wait 2 years when they moved up before joining the league, so they made us wait. C-USA knew we we were planning on being in the league 2001 and 2002, so they promised to help us with scheduling, that is why we got some of those games. (I know you aren't talking about the same games, because the C-USA games are different ones, but we were forced to be an Independent for 2 years due to UAB) I thought Southern Pi$$ had something to do with all of that too EDIT: Maybe I should have read the next page too LOL Edited October 23, 2023 by GoBulls84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted October 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,501 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted October 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said: I thought Southern Pi$$ had something to do with all of that too EDIT: Maybe I should have read the next page too LOL Speaking of Southern Piss, that program took a few steps back ever since USF left them in C-USA. Ironically the program that thought USF was not good enough to join C-USA back then is basically a bottom feeder in that conference these days lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULLSHTR Posted October 23, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 1,492 Reputation: 242 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2007 Share Posted October 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said: Speaking of Southern Piss, that program took a few steps back ever since USF left them in C-USA. Ironically the program that thought USF was not good enough to join C-USA back then is basically a bottom feeder in that conference these days lol ****, this sounds too familiar to our situation with central. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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