Cubanbull Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 295 Content Count: 6,848 Reputation: 1,114 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) The ACC now knows it must expand. They don’t want to get short handed as the PAC did. They need to move an add USF and UConn at the very least. So Immsure before we accept anything out west we remind ACC we are ready to go with them first Edited August 4, 2023 by Brad Changed The AAC to The ACC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Triple B said: The Big 12 is currently undergoing some significant changes. Pretty sure MK made comments, probably cheesy, back when the AAC was undergoing same. A cheesy canned corporate response would probably sound pretty stupid right now .... but he may be forced to give one if there's enough hand wringing. Examples? Sorry, now I'm just being salty lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted August 4, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Not sure how much to trust this internet-rumor-dude ... but if the B12 keeps going west, none of the ACC teams will be invited... which means the ACC will likely still have 10 pretty decent teams in all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,432 Reputation: 711 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted August 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Cubanbull said: The ACC now knows it must expand. They don’t want to get short handed as the PAC did. They need to move an add USF and UConn at the very least. So Immsure before we accept anything out west we remind ACC we are ready to go with them first ACC would have to open up their GoR... and with that FSU and Clemson would leave. They may probably sit this one out. Either way, USF has the opportunity to make itself a prime target. We just need to win (and build that **** stadium). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted August 4, 2023 The term conference realignment should be forbidden. Let's stop beating around the bush and start referring to it as network realignment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,088 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bull Nut said: The term conference realignment should be forbidden. Let's stop beating around the bush and start referring to it as network realignment I call it monetary consolidation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brad said: I call it monetary consolidation. I could get on board with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbuster Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 730 Reputation: 438 Days Won: 4 Joined: 09/07/2010 Share Posted August 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, Cubanbull said: We need to see how the PAC adds after this but with four left, they must expand. if they go something like this WEST: Washington State,Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, SDSU, Colorado State, Air Force EAST: SMU, Rice, Memphis, Tulane, USF, Navy/ Wichita State, UAB The 1st problem is that all of those replacements do not *really* make up for what they lost; ie prior to this week that league (with Oregon, Washington, Colorado) got a conditional offer from Apple that depended on subscription numbers. How bad would the next offer be with all of the departures and "lesser name brand" replacements? Going east obviously helps get more games and more potential timeslots/ revenue, but I doubt it helps that much. 26 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said: The problem is that the PAC needs teams in 2024, so any MWC adds will have to start with that $34M fee and try to negotiate it down. The AAC teams would have to pay at least the $18M we paid while giving the AAC significantly less notice. This is the second problem. The league waited too long and will have no chance to get teams quickly on-boarded. No money to offer prospective teams and no chance to field a product next year = dead conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF_rustbucket Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 414 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/25/2017 Share Posted August 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bear said: ACC would have to open up their GoR... and with that FSU and Clemson would leave. They may probably sit this one out. Either way, USF has the opportunity to make itself a prime target. We just need to win (and build that **** stadium). That's actually just a myth floating on Twitter and online forums from fans of teams that want it to be true. Adding new teams does not open up the GOR. The new teams just sign onto the existing terms. See the Big 12: once Texas and Oklahoma announced they were leaving, the Big 12 invited 4 new teams. That didn't let them out of the GOR early. We've now even reached the point where the 4 new teams have joined alongside Oklahoma and Texas, still didn't let them out early. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted August 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 40 Content Count: 1,241 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2003 Share Posted August 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said: That's actually just a myth floating on Twitter and online forums from fans of teams that want it to be true. Adding new teams does not open up the GOR. The new teams just sign onto the existing terms. See the Big 12: once Texas and Oklahoma announced they were leaving, the Big 12 invited 4 new teams. That didn't let them out of the GOR early. We've now even reached the point where the 4 new teams have joined alongside Oklahoma and Texas, still didn't let them out early. Why are you here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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