Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Sellular1]

Who's an authority on fan experience and student sections?

Apparently not the authors of the 100+ articles I posted of which none mention RJS as remotely exciting for students. Just like everyone here blindly refuses to belive UCF is being considered by the media ahead of us for going to the B12.

 

RJS is dead because we suck, and have for several years now. An OCS would be dead too.

Even the B1G teams that suck like Iowa still pack 70,000 in their stadiums, Maybe because theres not much else to do

 

1 - Iowa was a bowl team last year, so "suck" is hard to say.  Let's use Purdue.  They finished 3-9 last year, and their stadium seats 62,500.  They are also a public university with an enrollment of 38,000.  Purdue's last winning season was 2011.  So this is actually a decent comparison, despite the fact that Purdue has an OCS.

 

2 - Purdue played four out-of-conference games at home, one of which was Notre Dame. Let's set that aside. Here are their attendance numbers on the ESPN Box Scores for the other games (likely "tickets sold" numbers):

 Western Michigan - 37,031

 Central Michigan - 36,410

 Southern Illinois - 31,434

 

3 - Their four conference games:

 Iowa - 36,603

 Michigan State - 40,217

 Wisconsin - 35,068

 Northwestern - 30,117

 

4 - For comparison, here are the ESPN reported numbers for USF. Again, I know these are not "butts in seats" - but neither are the Purdue numbers.

 Maryland - 28,915

 NC State - 27,269

 U Conn - 28,723

 ECU - 31,567

 Houston - 29,782

 UCF - 36,963

 

5 - Purdue averaged 35,268 in the seven games above.  USF averaged 30,536 in the six games.

Consider that Purdue has generations of fans... played against better opponents, who have fan bases that travel -- and can actually drive to Purdue (3-4 hours in most cases).

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For another comparison...  Virginia (21,000 students, OCS seats 61,500, last winning season 2011, 5-7 last year), averaged 39,320 in 7 home games last year.

How about a mid-major comparison ... Fresno State (23,000 students, OCS seats 41,000, last winning season 2013, 6-7 last year), averaged 34,876 in 6 homes games, which included a sell out against Nebraska

USF has five bad years and our paid attendance is on par with a bad B1G team... a bad ACC team... and a decent MWC team.

We'll be back to 40,000+ quickly with a winning record.

Not sure why you "decided" to leave the 57,000 Notre Dame game out of the Purdue stats (pushes average to about 38,000) or why you left the Western Crapolina game off the USF stats...

[Triple B]

 

 

 

 

 

Who's an authority on fan experience and student sections?

Apparently not the authors of the 100+ articles I posted of which none mention RJS as remotely exciting for students. Just like everyone here blindly refuses to belive UCF is being considered by the media ahead of us for going to the B12.

 

RJS is dead because we suck, and have for several years now. An OCS would be dead too.

Even the B1G teams that suck like Iowa still pack 70,000 in their stadiums, Maybe because theres not much else to do

 

1 - Iowa was a bowl team last year, so "suck" is hard to say.  Let's use Purdue.  They finished 3-9 last year, and their stadium seats 62,500.  They are also a public university with an enrollment of 38,000.  Purdue's last winning season was 2011.  So this is actually a decent comparison, despite the fact that Purdue has an OCS.

 

2 - Purdue played four out-of-conference games at home, one of which was Notre Dame. Let's set that aside. Here are their attendance numbers on the ESPN Box Scores for the other games (likely "tickets sold" numbers):

 Western Michigan - 37,031

 Central Michigan - 36,410

 Southern Illinois - 31,434

 

3 - Their four conference games:

 Iowa - 36,603

 Michigan State - 40,217

 Wisconsin - 35,068

 Northwestern - 30,117

 

4 - For comparison, here are the ESPN reported numbers for USF. Again, I know these are not "butts in seats" - but neither are the Purdue numbers.

 Maryland - 28,915

 NC State - 27,269

 U Conn - 28,723

 ECU - 31,567

 Houston - 29,782

 UCF - 36,963

 

5 - Purdue averaged 35,268 in the seven games above.  USF averaged 30,536 in the six games.

Consider that Purdue has generations of fans... played against better opponents, who have fan bases that travel -- and can actually drive to Purdue (3-4 hours in most cases).

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For another comparison...  Virginia (21,000 students, OCS seats 61,500, last winning season 2011, 5-7 last year), averaged 39,320 in 7 home games last year.

How about a mid-major comparison ... Fresno State (23,000 students, OCS seats 41,000, last winning season 2013, 6-7 last year), averaged 34,876 in 6 homes games, which included a sell out against Nebraska

USF has five bad years and our paid attendance is on par with a bad B1G team... a bad ACC team... and a decent MWC team.

We'll be back to 40,000+ quickly with a winning record.

Not sure why you "decided" to leave the 57,000 Notre Dame game out of the Purdue stats (pushes average to about 38,000) or why you left the Western Crapolina game off the USF stats...

 

 

You'd leave the ND game off their total for the same reason you should leave an FSU game here off any realistic attendance averages for us .... and the WCU game was around 31K which wouldn't have affected our average much, would it?

 

I do take issue with Jim's "USF has five bad years". More like 1 good, one just a little below average and 3 bad ...

[Brad]

 

some potential good news, at least we are mentioned:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/gkketch/status/622107649484533760

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/gkketch

Geoff Ketchum

Geoff Ketchum – ‏@gkketch

Next @YSportsRadio: I've changed my tune on the Big 12's future after yesterday. Time to go to invest in Florida. http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/listen/ 

17 Jul 2015

 

What happened yesterday?

 

 

The dude from a Texas blog and a host or something on Yahoo suggested the B12 go after and USF and the Tinmen for recruiting benefit.

 

But as we're constantly reminded:

 

https://youtu.be/zDAmPIq29ro

[Guest]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who's an authority on fan experience and student sections?

Apparently not the authors of the 100+ articles I posted of which none mention RJS as remotely exciting for students. Just like everyone here blindly refuses to belive UCF is being considered by the media ahead of us for going to the B12.

 

RJS is dead because we suck, and have for several years now. An OCS would be dead too.

Even the B1G teams that suck like Iowa still pack 70,000 in their stadiums, Maybe because theres not much else to do

 

1 - Iowa was a bowl team last year, so "suck" is hard to say.  Let's use Purdue.  They finished 3-9 last year, and their stadium seats 62,500.  They are also a public university with an enrollment of 38,000.  Purdue's last winning season was 2011.  So this is actually a decent comparison, despite the fact that Purdue has an OCS.

 

2 - Purdue played four out-of-conference games at home, one of which was Notre Dame. Let's set that aside. Here are their attendance numbers on the ESPN Box Scores for the other games (likely "tickets sold" numbers):

 Western Michigan - 37,031

 Central Michigan - 36,410

 Southern Illinois - 31,434

 

3 - Their four conference games:

 Iowa - 36,603

 Michigan State - 40,217

 Wisconsin - 35,068

 Northwestern - 30,117

 

4 - For comparison, here are the ESPN reported numbers for USF. Again, I know these are not "butts in seats" - but neither are the Purdue numbers.

 Maryland - 28,915

 NC State - 27,269

 U Conn - 28,723

 ECU - 31,567

 Houston - 29,782

 UCF - 36,963

 

5 - Purdue averaged 35,268 in the seven games above.  USF averaged 30,536 in the six games.

Consider that Purdue has generations of fans... played against better opponents, who have fan bases that travel -- and can actually drive to Purdue (3-4 hours in most cases).

----------------------

For another comparison...  Virginia (21,000 students, OCS seats 61,500, last winning season 2011, 5-7 last year), averaged 39,320 in 7 home games last year.

How about a mid-major comparison ... Fresno State (23,000 students, OCS seats 41,000, last winning season 2013, 6-7 last year), averaged 34,876 in 6 homes games, which included a sell out against Nebraska

USF has five bad years and our paid attendance is on par with a bad B1G team... a bad ACC team... and a decent MWC team.

We'll be back to 40,000+ quickly with a winning record.

Not sure why you "decided" to leave the 57,000 Notre Dame game out of the Purdue stats (pushes average to about 38,000) or why you left the Western Crapolina game off the USF stats...

 

 

You'd leave the ND game off their total for the same reason you should leave an FSU game here off any realistic attendance averages for us .... and the WCU game was around 31K which wouldn't have affected our average much, would it?

 

I do take issue with Jim's "USF has five bad years". More like 1 good, one just a little below average and 3 bad ...

 

 

This.  Notre Dame @ Purdue is practically a home game for Notre Dame (2 hour drive)... Trip hit the nail on the head, I would leave off FSU next season as well.

Okay... I will stipulate on 2010... we were over to 40,000 paid attendance... and it has been downhill since... but that shows just how much attendance is based on winning for USF fans (and Tampa Bay people).

Heck... look at the Lightning and Bucs... when they win, they sell out... when they lose, tickets are easy to get.

 

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

some potential good news, at least we are mentioned:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/gkketch/status/622107649484533760

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/gkketch

Geoff Ketchum

Geoff Ketchum – â€@gkketch

Next @YSportsRadio: I've changed my tune on the Big 12's future after yesterday. Time to go to invest in Florida. http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/listen/ 

17 Jul 2015

 

What happened yesterday?

 

 

The dude from a Texas blog and a host or something on Yahoo suggested the B12 go after and USF and the Tinmen for recruiting benefit.

 

But as we're constantly reminded:

 

https://youtu.be/zDAmPIq29ro

 

 

But he said he changed his tune "after yesterday", he read a blog?

[namuh-bull]

I think he said it after the pre season All Big 12 team was picked.   If you look at http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=210212705 you can see they are mostly from Texas and Oklahoma, but a couple from Florida.   I think he is looking at extending the recruiting base outside of Texas and figures Florida is the place to go.

 

 

 

Go Bulls!

[bulls phanatic]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13288322/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-holds-firm-expansion-conference-title-game

[Sellular1]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13288322/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-holds-firm-expansion-conference-title-game

Good news for us!

[NewEnglandBull]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13288322/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-holds-firm-expansion-conference-title-game

Good news for us!

For one more year. If Big 10 get shut out again they will start looking. I just hope they get one team in to give USF more time to improve. We should all be Big 10 fans next year in hoping they get one team in.

[redbird2001]

I would think for sure think Cincy is in if they expand.   If for nothing else to give WVU a regional travel partner.  WVU has been complaining since they got in.  Question is who is the 12th?   If BYU, UCF, Memphis, Houston, USF