Bullschmutz Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 1,304 Reputation: 122 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/17/2007 Share Posted August 16, 2013 We play on the best playing surface in the NFL... and have space for an OCS... shouldn't matter. UCLA, USC and Miami don't have one. And Pitt Screw Pitt. I intentionally left them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,137 Reputation: 4,642 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted August 16, 2013 War Screw Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,127 Reputation: 924 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted August 16, 2013 All we can do is keep praying for more realignment. Databull is right, everything was quiet for a couple months there. Many of these "insiders" said it was over and they wouldn't be commenting on realignment anymore. Now? All of the sudden It's crazy. There's something going on, something big, and it's going to be announced this season. By 2014 the CFB landscape will be changed. We need to pray the B12 falls apart, because we DON'T want to be in it. The best of all scenarios for USF is if UT and OU bolt for the PAC, taking TT and OSU with them Why would that be best case scenario for USF? In my mind, that is worst case. We stand ZERO chance of getting into the ACC or SEC or B1G, if the Big 12 goes then we are permanently stuck in the AAC (if it still even exists at D4). I'm ok with being stuck in the AAC if it's D4. What is D4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted August 16, 2013 All we can do is keep praying for more realignment. Databull is right, everything was quiet for a couple months there. Many of these "insiders" said it was over and they wouldn't be commenting on realignment anymore. Now? All of the sudden It's crazy. There's something going on, something big, and it's going to be announced this season. By 2014 the CFB landscape will be changed. We need to pray the B12 falls apart, because we DON'T want to be in it. The best of all scenarios for USF is if UT and OU bolt for the PAC, taking TT and OSU with them Why would that be best case scenario for USF? In my mind, that is worst case. We stand ZERO chance of getting into the ACC or SEC or B1G, if the Big 12 goes then we are permanently stuck in the AAC (if it still even exists at D4). I'm ok with being stuck in the AAC if it's D4. What is D4? http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/22988242 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,127 Reputation: 924 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted August 16, 2013 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted August 16, 2013 "Realignment Primer" from Waiving the Wheat, a Kansas board. http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14545-Realignment-Primer Well, the guy has done some research. But I think he is way overly optimistic on the stability of the Big 12. I also think he is short changing the possibility of the Big 12 adding teams. Two reasons. One, the other power conferences are not happy that the Big 12 only has ten teams for multiple reasons. If the B1G and SEC decide that the Big 12 needs to add more members, they will arrange the votes so that the Big 12 is forced to add more members. The B12 has a numbers disadvantage in this fight. Second, Fox and ESPN would absolutely add $$$ to the contract to get more teams. Maybe $20mil per team per year, maybe not. But certainly enough that the hit would be small. Right off the bat you'd be adding a CCG which will up the dollars. This poster says that the networks would not add dollars if they add teams. Absolutely not the case. By the same token he completely dismisses the idea that the Big 12 could disband. It would be unlikely that the Big12 would disband in the next three or four years, but it isn't impossible. One reason the SEC doesn't have a GOR is that they believe it is not enforceable. We have seen in the Big East that there are limits as to how much you can punish a school for leaving a conference, no matter what the bylaws state. If teams want out of the Big 12, it will happen. Some good stuff here, some unrealistic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted August 16, 2013 "Realignment Primer" from Waiving the Wheat, a Kansas board. http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14545-Realignment-Primer Well, the guy has done some research. But I think he is way overly optimistic on the stability of the Big 12. I also think he is short changing the possibility of the Big 12 adding teams. Two reasons. One, the other power conferences are not happy that the Big 12 only has ten teams for multiple reasons. If the B1G and SEC decide that the Big 12 needs to add more members, they will arrange the votes so that the Big 12 is forced to add more members. The B12 has a numbers disadvantage in this fight. Second, Fox and ESPN would absolutely add $$$ to the contract to get more teams. Maybe $20mil per team per year, maybe not. But certainly enough that the hit would be small. Right off the bat you'd be adding a CCG which will up the dollars. This poster says that the networks would not add dollars if they add teams. Absolutely not the case. By the same token he completely dismisses the idea that the Big 12 could disband. It would be unlikely that the Big12 would disband in the next three or four years, but it isn't impossible. One reason the SEC doesn't have a GOR is that they believe it is not enforceable. We have seen in the Big East that there are limits as to how much you can punish a school for leaving a conference, no matter what the bylaws state. If teams want out of the Big 12, it will happen. Some good stuff here, some unrealistic stuff. Does the SEC not have a GoR because they deem it unenforceable.. or is it because they know no team really wants to leave*? *And if a team does decide to leave, they have the longest line of replacements begging to be let it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) OCS not needed, Ask Pitt, Miami, USC, Baylor(for now), Temple, ect... 10 teams share stadiums with pro teams, USC plays in the LA Coliseum (not on campus) http://www.footballgeography.com/stadiums-shared-by-pro-football-and-college-football/ Edited August 16, 2013 by Dhambuc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted August 16, 2013 "Realignment Primer" from Waiving the Wheat, a Kansas board. http://www.wavingthewheat.com/showthread.php?14545-Realignment-Primer Well, the guy has done some research. But I think he is way overly optimistic on the stability of the Big 12. I also think he is short changing the possibility of the Big 12 adding teams. Two reasons. One, the other power conferences are not happy that the Big 12 only has ten teams for multiple reasons. If the B1G and SEC decide that the Big 12 needs to add more members, they will arrange the votes so that the Big 12 is forced to add more members. The B12 has a numbers disadvantage in this fight. Second, Fox and ESPN would absolutely add $$$ to the contract to get more teams. Maybe $20mil per team per year, maybe not. But certainly enough that the hit would be small. Right off the bat you'd be adding a CCG which will up the dollars. This poster says that the networks would not add dollars if they add teams. Absolutely not the case. By the same token he completely dismisses the idea that the Big 12 could disband. It would be unlikely that the Big12 would disband in the next three or four years, but it isn't impossible. One reason the SEC doesn't have a GOR is that they believe it is not enforceable. We have seen in the Big East that there are limits as to how much you can punish a school for leaving a conference, no matter what the bylaws state. If teams want out of the Big 12, it will happen. Some good stuff here, some unrealistic stuff. Does the SEC not have a GoR because they deem it unenforceable.. or is it because they know no team really wants to leave*? *And if a team does decide to leave, they have the longest line of replacements begging to be let it i always figured it was because the 2nd part, they just don't need one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshutter Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 43 Content Count: 684 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2008 Share Posted August 16, 2013 OCS not needed, Ask Pitt, Miami, USC, Baylor(for now), Temple, ect... 10 teams share stadiums with pro teams, USC plays in the LA Coliseum (not on campus) http://www.footballgeography.com/stadiums-shared-by-pro-football-and-college-football/ Legally yes, but come on, their stadium is across the street from campus. Might as well be considered on-campus. http://goo.gl/maps/hxEqM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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