SilverBull Posted October 29, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,467 Reputation: 1,435 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 hours ago, smazza said: (1) coach scott will turn this program around. (2) leavitt never wnet on to do anything anywhere else so (3) i dont understand the ongoing love for him. (4) a coach cant hit a kid. 1. Remains to be seen but I am hopeful. 2. Factually and demonstrably untrue. He had such subsequent success that he went to a Super Bowl and at one point was one of the highest paid college DCs in the country. 3. You never forget your first and some of our fans are still infatuated with "what might have been." 4. I don't know fully what happened in that locker room but I wholeheartedly agree with you on this point. Even more so, you can't pick a fight with your bosses and the media over it when the allegations come to light. A mea culpa can go far in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSF Posted October 30, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 hours ago, smazza said: coach scott will turn this program around. leavitt never wnet on to do anything anywhere else so i dont understand the ongoing love for him. a coach cant hit a kid. What coach Leavitt did after USF is not an indicator of how well he would have done if he stayed at USF. If you couldn't see the passion that he had for this one place, I don't know what to tell you. He loved USF and he was a legendary coach for this program. There is nothing negative you can say about the time he had here outside of the brain dead decision to hit a kid. I'm not saying that he should have gone unpunished, but it was unnecessary to fire him. That's objectively why we are where we are. You're lying to yourself if you think we fall off that way with Leavitt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 30, 2020 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,087 Reputation: 10,858 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 7:42 AM, smazza said: imo i really cant think of worse usf team All sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobulls90 Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 222 Reputation: 99 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/29/2015 Share Posted October 31, 2020 https://youtu.be/GyhD28yvUvo 2013>2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 6:54 PM, WhoRUSF said: What coach Leavitt did after USF is not an indicator of how well he would have done if he stayed at USF. If you couldn't see the passion that he had for this one place, I don't know what to tell you. He loved USF and he was a legendary coach for this program. There is nothing negative you can say about the time he had here outside of the brain dead decision to hit a kid. I'm not saying that he should have gone unpunished, but it was unnecessary to fire him. That's objectively why we are where we are. You're lying to yourself if you think we fall off that way with Leavitt. once the evidence and witnesses were gathered and it was determined to hit a student athlete the school had no choice but to fire him leavitt had un uncontrollable ego.this led to his demise in oregon in sports you are judged by your record. leavitt's record after usf is not stellar. he is a good defensive coordinator and he did great things at usf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 11:52 AM, SilverBull said: 1. Remains to be seen but I am hopeful. 2. Factually and demonstrably untrue. He had such subsequent success that he went to a Super Bowl and at one point was one of the highest paid college DCs in the country. 3. You never forget your first and some of our fans are still infatuated with "what might have been." 4. I don't know fully what happened in that locker room but I wholeheartedly agree with you on this point. Even more so, you can't pick a fight with your bosses and the media over it when the allegations come to light. A mea culpa can go far in this area. 1. of course we will have to see on this point 2. barry switzer won a super bowl. one must look at the entire body of work to come to a conclusion about one's career.being the highest paid means little when professional organizations and schools demonstarte time and time again they have more money than brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, smazza said: leavitt had un uncontrollable ego.this led to his demise in oregon Yup he couldn't get along with Cristobal and now he's at where he's at due to his inability to grow as a person. He's a talented coach but also his own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,918 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted October 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: Yup he couldn't get along with Cristobal and now he's at where he's at due to his inability to grow as a person. He's a talented coach but also his own worst enemy. End of the day great coach, probably not a great person but who cares, wish we had him and people around him could shove their ego in their back pocket and enjoy the ride, but this is a foolish thought so whatever, dude still doing what he loves and getting paid handsomely, not many of us can say the same except @brybull1970 of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Friscobull said: End of the day great coach, probably not a great person but who cares, wish we had him and people around him could shove their ego in their back pocket and enjoy the ride, but this is a foolish thought so whatever, dude still doing what he loves and getting paid handsomely, not many of us can say the same except @brybull1970 of course. He's at FAU and basically tied up to Taggart's hip for a reason. I love CJL and appreciate what he did for USF but I have trouble calling a coach great when they have never won anything of real significance. If he was truly "great" in the results based business that is coaching he would have to more than opportunities than following CWT around. People will look the other way in coaching if you are truly great. They haven't for CJL.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted October 31, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,918 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: He's at FAU and basically tied up to Taggart's hip for a reason. I love CJL and appreciate what he did for USF but I have trouble calling a coach great when they have never won anything of real significance. If he was truly "great" in the results based business that is coaching he would have to more than opportunities than following CWT around. People will look the other way in coaching if you are truly great. They haven't for CJL.... it is all relative, he is great for USF, for others he is probably ass, this is the reason why we bow down to CJL, our bar is way too ******* low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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