Rocky Style Posted October 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,142 Reputation: 4,647 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 1:46 PM, NewEnglandBull said: People say that expanding the playoff makes the regular season not as important. I say SO WHAT! WHO CARES! I would rather see the playoffs be done correctly than worry about making the regular season have more value. I could see that argument because the powers that be are basically saying our regular season has no value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted October 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 1:46 PM, NewEnglandBull said: People say that expanding the playoff makes the regular season not as important. I say SO WHAT! WHO CARES! I would rather see the playoffs be done correctly than worry about making the regular season have more value. 43 minutes ago, Rocky Style said: I could see that argument because the powers that be are basically saying our regular season has no value. It's just excuses. They've always had them. Why they couldn't have an And1 game, why there couldn't be a 4 team playoff and now why it can't be expanded so every team in your FBS Division actually has a shot at playing for a championship. How much does the regular season mean to the G5 schools now? How much does it mean to the Pac 12 where undefeated Colorado was eliminated a couple of weeks ago according to espn? 8 out of 120+ teams make a playoff and the regular season doesn't mean anything? Right, what they meant to say is it starts meaning something for more than about 25 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted October 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 960 Reputation: 652 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 7:18 AM, TheAccountant said: I am a firm believer that if you aren't good enough to win your conference, then you aren't good enough to win a national championship. IMO, there should never be a situation where there are two teams from the same conference in the CFP (see UG and UA last year...complete horse****). There isn't another sport, other than college football, in which a team that did not win their conference can play in the national championship (college basketball I suppose, but that is a 64 team tournament so that doesn't count). That being said, I think they should extend the playoff by 2 teams to bring the total to 6. The first 5 teams would be the P5 champions, and the last team would be the highest ranked G5 team. The top two ranked teams would get a first round bye, while 2 plays 6, and 4 plays 5. Well, UGA won their conference so by your logic they're in; and also by your logic, the actual national champion (Alabama) should never have been given a chance. I'm no genius, but your logic seems a little flawed. You can say anything you want about how unfair it was, Alabama proved that they deserved the national championship by beating the best teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted October 25, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,854 Days Won: 175 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted October 25, 2018 5 hours ago, chapelbull said: So what? If the G5 team deserves to be there, then they have to beat whoever is put in front of them. They just deserve a shot You are missing my point-- that the bias will force a team into the worst possible playoff position even if they are possibly a 4th seed and deserve to not have to play the best team in the first round. Seeding matters imo. Not that it matters much-- if USF has to win a conference championship to qualify we are never getting in. WINKY FACE *the WINKY FACE is added in case some people are reading on phones that don't show freaking emoticons. What are those-- flip phones? Pagers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, michibull said: Well, UGA won their conference so by your logic they're in; and also by your logic, the actual national champion (Alabama) should never have been given a chance. I'm no genius, but your logic seems a little flawed. You can say anything you want about how unfair it was, Alabama proved that they deserved the national championship by beating the best teams. No, the system is flawed. You only take 4 teams to the playoffs and one of them is a team that didn't even make their conference championship game (1 of 5 Power conferences)? And they lost in the last game of the season to the eventual conference runner up who doesn't get picked for the playoff? So much for the regular season meaning something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chem-E-BULL Reaction Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 30 Content Count: 341 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/2009 Share Posted October 26, 2018 8 teams p5 champs best g5 champ two at large. All conf games increase in meaning. Also can have more interesting OOC matchups without blue bloods gerrymandering. But that makes sense so will never be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OcalaBull2 Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,322 Reputation: 775 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/02/2016 Share Posted October 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, chapelbull said: No, the system is flawed. You only take 4 teams to the playoffs and one of them is a team that didn't even make their conference championship game (1 of 5 Power conferences)? And they lost in the last game of the season to the eventual conference runner up who doesn't get picked for the playoff? So much for the regular season meaning something. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,961 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, chapelbull said: No, the system is flawed. You only take 4 teams to the playoffs and one of them is a team that didn't even make their conference championship game (1 of 5 Power conferences)? And they lost in the last game of the season to the eventual conference runner up who doesn't get picked for the playoff? So much for the regular season meaning something. If that hadn't been Bama's first loss of the season, do they still make the playoffs? Doubtful ..... You can go thru and pick out quirks here and there but the regular season, as a whole, means everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Triple B said: If that hadn't been Bama's first loss of the season, do they still make the playoffs? Doubtful ..... You can go thru and pick out quirks here and there but the regular season, as a whole, means everything. You only have 4 teams. Shouldn't be too many quirks. On the field, at the end of the season Auburn beat Bama. If that doesn't prove you are the better team, then what the hell does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 960 Reputation: 652 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted October 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, chapelbull said: No, the system is flawed. You only take 4 teams to the playoffs and one of them is a team that didn't even make their conference championship game (1 of 5 Power conferences)? And they lost in the last game of the season to the eventual conference runner up who doesn't get picked for the playoff? So much for the regular season meaning something. The system maybe flawed but I have two question's: has there been a team left out of the CFP that would have won the National Championship? For the most part, hasn't the best team won the National Championship? Before you start throwing out a bunch of teams that "on any given Saturday" could win, I don't want to hear that garbage. Anybody with a half, rational brain will tell you that it has done a better job than any system we have had. Expanding the CFP will only dilute the process and then you'll get 2 and 3 loss teams in there. The point of the 4 team CFP is money and to ensure you at least have the best team in the country (not to give out participation ribbons); and it does that. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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