BULLheaded Posted May 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 37 Content Count: 1,480 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/08/2002 Share Posted May 20, 2005 huh? 6years? were talking about the condition of going to the colts. Dungy was a disaster at running offense in Tampa and because of that and the great offense already in indy he was hired with the supposed condition that he is not allowed to mess with the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted May 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 huh? 6years? were talking about the condition of going to the colts. Dungy was a disaster at running offense in Tampa and because of that and the great offense already in indy he was hired with the supposed condition that he is not allowed to mess with the offense.Sorry. I was talking about the O.C. hires and the hands-on way Dungy ran the offense in Tampa. My bad.I just hope CJL is not making the same mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulls96go Posted May 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 724 Content Count: 10,219 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted May 20, 2005 this had better work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFPDiddy Posted May 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,334 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/15/2003 Share Posted May 20, 2005 It says either leavitt is not in control, or he is not putting serious effort into this offense, or this team. That, or he wants full command of the offense.Sad as it may be, i hope its option #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted May 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted May 20, 2005 the demise of the bulls will continueit will get ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted May 20, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Glad you won't be there to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S p e n c e Posted May 21, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,267 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/2002 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I'm not a big fan of the spread but it can work in the right situations. And that "situation" you speak of would be High School football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted May 21, 2005 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,674 Days Won: 165 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Two things--1) DungyDungy had no reason to change anything in Indy when it came to the offense. Why fix something that clearly was not broken? He has yet to be able to create a competent defense because the focus on the offense has created an imbalance. As for his offenses while Bucs HC--- there was one year where the Bucs set all kinds of offensive records-- a banner year with the exception of actual scoring offense (passing yards especially) under Les Steckel. Why Steckel was fired after that year made no sense whatsoever to me-- but that may have been the one time Dungy put his foot down in terms of power struggles-- and it made things worse. 2) UnknownsWe DON'T know if Smith is good in the boothWe DON'T know if Smith was totally to blame for Banks/Julmiste et al not "progressing". The QB coach is just ONE variable in that equation that is more heavily weighted on the talent and personality of the QB.We DON'T know that this was done to help CJL put more control on the offense-- specifically-- why would this be wrong anyway? Ultimately, it is CJL who is directing this effort. He is the HEAD coach-- not the defensive coordinator (which he has two of by the way). I would hope people would stop jumping to conclusions about what is going to happen. It's not even June yet -- the kids are out there BUSTING THE COLLECTIVE ASSES in the weight room trying to be the best team they can be. Get behind that effort and quit worrying about how CJL is handling his coaching staff. Otherwise, I see you as a cancer to this team -- someone who wants to micro-manage every GD detail to the point that you actually think you know more than CJL. You don't. Deal with that. Have an opinion-- but remember that your negative quips do nothing to help out our school. Isn't it bad enough that we have 8 skrillion people from other schools talking about how terrible or insignificant USF is already? Christ-- has some pride, maybe a little faith, and do your part-- be there for this team. That is not too much to ask. If you said some of the things you are saying directly to the coaches, they would kick you off the fan base or make you run the stadium stairs until you got your role back in focus. And before some whiney ***** complains that I'm telling them they have every right to expect this or to be able to say that, reread this post and understand that as a fan, you too have a job. Good fans don't abandon the team -- ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebbull Posted May 21, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 30 Content Count: 242 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Hey Bull 94; I agree with all your points on your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFMikeB Posted May 21, 2005 Group: Member Topic Count: 826 Content Count: 10,874 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/01/2003 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I would hope people would stop jumping to conclusions about what is going to happen. It's not even June yet -- the kids are out there BUSTING THE COLLECTIVE ASSES in the weight room trying to be the best team they can be. Get behind that effort and quit worrying about how CJL is handling his coaching staff. Otherwise, I see you as a cancer to this team -- someone who wants to micro-manage every GD detail to the point that you actually think you know more than CJL. You don't. Deal with that. Have an opinion-- but remember that your negative quips do nothing to help out our school. Isn't it bad enough that we have 8 skrillion people from other schools talking about how terrible or insignificant USF is already? Christ-- has some pride, maybe a little faith, and do your part-- be there for this team. That is not too much to ask. If you said some of the things you are saying directly to the coaches, they would kick you off the fan base or make you run the stadium stairs until you got your role back in focus. And before some whiney ***** complains that I'm telling them they have every right to expect this or to be able to say that, reread this post and understand that as a fan, you too have a job. Good fans don't abandon the team -- ever.BINGO! This is the best post on this topic I've seen since the hire was announced, and is a mirror image of exactly how I feel about the garbage that is running out of everyone's posts. Thanks, Mike, I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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