Brad Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,075 Reputation: 10,845 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 21 hours ago, Triple B said: doubtful there are many that get D1 scholarships that lack fundamentals I don't doubt it. Many players are recruited on athletic ability or scoring ability but don't know fundamentals of game like defense, team defense, how to hedge a screen, big men with bad footwork, flawed rebounding, passing. Much I've seen with our young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted February 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Brad said: I don't doubt it. Many players are recruited on athletic ability or scoring ability but don't know fundamentals of game like defense, team defense, how to hedge a screen, big men with bad footwork, flawed rebounding, passing. Much I've seen with our young team. Those are more complex "fundamentals" than what I was thinking of ...... and lord knows what "fundamentals" char meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted February 7, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted February 7, 2017 34 minutes ago, Triple B said: Those are more complex "fundamentals" than what I was thinking of ...... and lord knows what "fundamentals" char meant. It's a simple game, really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted February 8, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, charsibb said: It's a simple game, really! I love that clip .... Pretty much irrelevant in this conversation but awesome nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted February 8, 2017 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,719 Reputation: 5,860 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Greatest line on fundamentals (baseball) was from Willie Mays. When they hit it I catch it and when they throw it I hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted February 8, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted February 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, Bourbon Bull said: Greatest line on fundamentals (baseball) was from Willie Mays. When they hit it I catch it and when they throw it I hit it. Me likey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeel_Bull Posted February 9, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 97 Content Count: 1,180 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/19/2015 Share Posted February 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, brybull1970 said: Lots of varying opinions here. Is the team talented and neither Antigua or Bartow could harness it. Or is Bartow a guy who can coach up talent but the squad has none? I agree that Guerrero is a guy who hasn't shown a lot of improvement. He lacks any form of athleticism with facing or with his back to the basket, but is a guy who shows some flashes on the boards. The team has talent but continues to play inconsistently with turnovers and fouls. Like I said, every player has showed flashes this year but they can't put it together for a full game. I really don't know if Bartow is the answer but he has definitely put more work into it than Antigua did. I think there is a base for the new coach to work from, since there are no seniors, but the coach has to be a guy who can drill the fundamentals and smart basketball into these guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted February 9, 2017 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,719 Reputation: 5,860 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted February 9, 2017 9 hours ago, brybull1970 said: I don't blame Bartow. I'm just saying I haven't seen him show anything that says he is the guy that we want to hitch our wagon to for the next 3 years. Im not sure how anyone in their sane mind would think that hiring a coach who will likely go 0-17 is the guy to turn the program around. We just go round and round with this. WHICH coach in the country would not be going 0 - 17 with this team? So if Coach K were here and went 0 - 17 with THESE players you wouldn't give him a chance the next year to be your coach? Bartow has proven in the past to be a decent coach. Can he coach these players to wins? Well, could anyone coach these players to wins? I'm not saying I want Bartow back but I wouldn't be shocked or upset if he does return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcgruber Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 257 Content Count: 2,408 Reputation: 168 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/24/2008 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The real question is can he recruit better talent. His coaching ability isn't the question its what can he bring in to compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted February 10, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted February 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, bcgruber said: The real question is can he recruit better talent. His coaching ability isn't the question its what can he bring in to compete At this point, I don't think we need better talent. We just need a full squad of gritty, chip-on-the-shoulder players that execute fundamentals and play really well together. We have the facilities but lack the history to attract super high-caliber HS players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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