Brad Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 20, 2016 If Mr. Harlan can net Murray Bartow of UAF'ingB fame to come sit next to Antigua, he can surely lure Strong to sit next to CWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF_Grouper Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 584 Content Count: 10,369 Reputation: 92 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/2005 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I know the defense has been dreadfully awful this year but they are young. Have we considered maybe this was just a year we didn't have all the pieces to put things together? It is not obvious to me that DC isn't working out. There have been some signs of improvement - much better tackling and such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,116 Reputation: 473 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted November 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, USF_Grouper said: I know the defense has been dreadfully awful this year but they are young. Have we considered maybe this was just a year we didn't have all the pieces to put things together? It is not obvious to me that DC isn't working out. There have been some signs of improvement - much better tackling and such. Grouper, we returned 7 starters from last year and 14 of the 22 two-deep. Deadrin Senat, Bruce Hector, etc., didn't suddenly forget how to play defense. The scheme has been significantly worse and we're not dictating to defenses nearly as much as we did last year. The biggest problem is tackling-it's been awful. That is one thing that hasn't been much worse than last year, because it certainly wasn't all that great last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Brad said: If Mr. Harlan can net Murray Bartow of UAF'ingB fame to come sit next to Antigua, he can surely lure Strong to sit next to CWT. This. Bring him in as a one-year consultant, knowing he won't stay, but milking him while we can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls&Hogs Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 15 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/20/2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Arkansas boards are saying the same exact thing; I'm not sure that he takes a DC job anywhere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionbull Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 2,610 Reputation: 635 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/17/2015 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, bullsbucsfan426 said: Grouper, we returned 7 starters from last year and 14 of the 22 two-deep. Deadrin Senat, Bruce Hector, etc., didn't suddenly forget how to play defense. The scheme has been significantly worse and we're not dictating to defenses nearly as much as we did last year. The biggest problem is tackling-it's been awful. That is one thing that hasn't been much worse than last year, because it certainly wasn't all that great last year. The main problem watching a full season is the lack of real sustainable adjustments. FSU's staff laid out the blueprint on how to beat the defense and everyone else has really just followed that scheme. The only major adjustment was a complete scheme change to the 46 Bear against Navy; and that was arguably predicated by tape from Tulane. Another glaring difference is the depth and size of the DL unit; the starters are good and some of the rotation guys but the size just isn't there. We all know that but there hasn't been any real scheme to compensate for that. Also the Husky was used differently last year than the Striker is this year. SMU was the first game since maybe Cuse where there was push from the DL and a lot of TFLs. It's hard to tell if it's the scheme from the DC, lack of fire from the coaches or just bad luck, but the defense arguably is what's holding this team back from national relevance from pollsters and cost us in Philly. No matter what happens this year I hope CWT sees what the potential for next year is and really hones in on bringing someone else in for the Defense. I hope it means that CRW awcknowledges that and learns under someone else and stays because his recruiting is really good, but we can't waste another year of Flowers at the helm. We can't afford to have a conference loss next year because one unit is so bad that the offense has to always fire on all cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted November 20, 2016 As long as they find a good place to keep Woodie in our camp, I'm for giving it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Anybody do the analysis between the times we played Auggie+Nigel last night v. Cherry+Thomas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breedwell Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 863 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/20/2012 Share Posted November 20, 2016 3 hours ago, bullsbucsfan426 said: Grouper, we returned 7 starters from last year and 14 of the 22 two-deep. Deadrin Senat, Bruce Hector, etc., didn't suddenly forget how to play defense. The scheme has been significantly worse and we're not dictating to defenses nearly as much as we did last year. The biggest problem is tackling-it's been awful. That is one thing that hasn't been much worse than last year, because it certainly wasn't all that great last year. You know what though? One thing I don't believe I've seen mentioned in all of our gripe about the defense is how well and how quickly the offense performs. We boast and are proud about the offense scoring on one play, or scoring in under two minutes. What kind of effect does that have on the defense? I wouldn't be surprised if the defense is gassed after the first quarter, even with good conditioning. There were definitive times last night where the defense looked better. I wager that's due to the additional rotations they were putting out. When the offense is only on the field for a few plays for a couple minutes, none of those guys have a chance to sit down for a minute and catch their breath and look at some adjustments. They're sitting for a few minutes and already its time to go dance again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted November 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted November 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Breedwell said: You know what though? One thing I don't believe I've seen mentioned in all of our gripe about the defense is how well and how quickly the offense performs. We boast and are proud about the offense scoring on one play, or scoring in under two minutes. What kind of effect does that have on the defense? I wouldn't be surprised if the defense is gassed after the first quarter, even with good conditioning. There were definitive times last night where the defense looked better. I wager that's due to the additional rotations they were putting out. When the offense is only on the field for a few plays for a couple minutes, none of those guys have a chance to sit down for a minute and catch their breath and look at some adjustments. They're sitting for a few minutes and already its time to go dance again. I do think there is something about that, our defense is on the field alot and even last night we had either quick scores or 3 and outs that does put alot of pressure on a defense. \ We do need to get a few juco players for the D line and I would like to see some larger corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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