NCBull Posted December 7, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Remind us how long you have consistently been in the AAC. There's a start to bolster your claim. Unfortunately it also guts it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like GOOOOLD (and green) Posted December 7, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 480 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I don't mean to come across as rude, but the lack of reading comprehension is apparent, which seems to happen with alarming frequency here: I said there were consistent results compared to teams CURRENTLY in the AAC. That means the history extends beyond the infancy of the AAC. Conference names aside, most of the same teams have been playing each other for over a decade now. But since you asked the question: the Pirates have been part of the AAC for two seasons, and in those two seasons despite a down year this year have more wins than everyone but Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and Temple in that time (remember multiple outcomes(seasons) -> trend). So even though that wasn't the basis of my statement, it still holds true...just further solidifies what I said. I know that's a bit of ownage, so I wanted to take a step back to emphasize that I am here to have intelligent conversation that is balanced...in the interest of being balanced I should note that USF and Navy are the TWO programs in the AAC that own the head to head against ECU. So, while what I have said over the past couple hours is completely true, I must acknowledge the job USF has done against the Pirates, in particular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted December 7, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Because that's just one season, Apis. This theory applies across the board, not just to the Pirates. For example, despite a good season USF has been consistently bad for the last half decade...UCF despite a bad season has been consistently good over the same amount of time. I understand that it behooves your psyche attm to have a short memory on these matters but consistency is the true measure of a program and that is what ECU is seeking. They are hoping to establish a 5-7 young/injury riddled campaign as the nadir. ECU is doing what they can to position themselves for growth, like everyone else in the American. Time will tell rather quickly whether this move pays off or not. Butch Davis would be a good pickup. A single outcome does not quantify a trend by any measure; consistency is derived from trends. The previous statement makes complete sense, and the proper word was indeed used. Is this where someone who thinks they're being clever adds a classy 'your thinking isn't thinking the way it should be thinking' or 'maybe your thinking is the problem' meme? 2015 - 5 - 72014 64 23 54 -0.605 8 5 0.145 -1.087 38.6 51.3 2013 26 13 50 0.580 10 3 0.294 -0.475 38.5 51.1 2012 54 45 90 -0.142 8 5 0.125 -0.606 43.7 48.3 2011 63 66 97 -0.064 5 7 0.097 -0.661 50.7 49.6 2010 54 15 119 0.099 6 7 0.398 -0.840 55.6 47.8 2009 37 62 35 0.553 9 5 0.443 -0.564 50.3 50.6 2008 51 80 31 0.170 9 5 0.497 -1.038 46.1 50.2 2007 49 44 84 0.308 8 5 0.450 -0.833 49.4 49.2 2006 63 79 47 -0.039 7 6 0.252 -0.902 46.4 48.6 2005 75 73 79 -0.316 5 6 0.150 -1.008 45.9 50.7 2004 111 92 115 -1.819 2 9 0.060 -2.151 48.3 50.5 2003 108 104 105 -2.018 1 11 0.000 -2.184 49.7 49.8 2002 91 53 97 -1.135 4 8 0.339 -1.890 50.0 48.9 2001 53 13 86 0.205 6 6 0.284 -0.606 56.0 48.8 2000 36 31 38 0.622 8 4 0.490 -0.618 48.9 51.8 So out of the past 15 years, ECU has had only 8 years with a record over .500 So please explain to me how that is "consistently better" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like GOOOOLD (and green) Posted December 7, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 480 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I already explained in clear terms above, if you care for me to explain in your terms, you will need to provide something to compare it to. For example: Going back 10 years (to 2005), how does the number of years with a record over .500 compare between ECU and USF? To which I would answer: well, it would the same for each, 6. That's how the conversation should flow...not: 'oh, let me pick one arbitrary stat with no control or test subject to compare with and try to make hay from it while completely ignoring a well laid out rationale just a couple replies above'. It should be noted that USF's and Cincy's relative history in these meaningless 'discussions' are the only schools in the current AAC (save Navy-losses/sample size) that compares favorably to that of ECU's over a similar time, so focusing on USF really doesn't deviate from the original point that ECU is still consistently better than most of the current AAC schools. Also, just for good measure-having a record over .500 more often than not over 15 years like Dogma suggested is actually ahead of the curve, especially for a small time team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted December 7, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Dude, I'm just messing with you. The use of the word, "consistently" is where I have a problem. Have you generally been a better team than most of the teams in this conference? Sure, but as stated above, ECU is not, "consistently" better. You've had your up and down cycles like most teams do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted December 7, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Butch Davis at ECU would be a huge upgrade. Someone in their administration much think they have a legit chance at wooing Butch, otherwise the McNeil firing doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBull Posted December 12, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Class act...hope he lands on his feet at a place that will appreciate him.@RuffinMcNeill I love and I'm a proud graduate of East Carolina University. I have only positive thoughts and words for our institution. Luv u#2nd to None 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted December 13, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Heading to Virginia to be Assistant Head Coach and LB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky the Bull Posted December 13, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,031 Content Count: 7,497 Reputation: 1,100 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/25/2001 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Duke OC announced as new ECU coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danm1983 Posted December 14, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 2,994 Reputation: 151 Days Won: 4 Joined: 08/20/2009 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Duke OC announced as new ECU coach.whiff. ECU strapped for cash or something? this is so odd of a situation. I heard the Boneyard was melting down, and quite unhappy with the AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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