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Damm! If he that good at 46, there's still hope for me to get a schollie!

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It's funny that these conversations keep coming up. The same people with all the same reasons/excuses. This problem is EXTREMELY simple.

 

Mr./Ms. Student Athlete - These are the rules, comply and we'll pay for your education. Don't comply, and suffer what ever consequence we deem appropriate. No, we don't care if you agree.

 

Your CHOICE.

let's not act like a rule needs to be broken in order to lose their scholarship. it's a one sided contract allowing a member school out of that contract for no reason at all.

 

student/athletes are "encouraged" to leave schools all the time.

let's stay on target...that's not what we're talking about here.

 

the fact that the NCAA won't allow student athletes to be treated any differently than an ordinary student yet they expect them to be held to a much higher standard( by requiring random drug testing for one) is ridiculous.

 

it's odd that so many players get suspended for pot and yet so few get suspended for performance enhancing drugs. I'm sure college football is just as clean as the MLB

 

Different test and costs money. When I was in school, the athletic department tested 3 male athletes and 3 female athletes randomly once a month. That's all they felt like spending that would meet the minimum NCAA requirements. My 3rd baseman was openly juicing and explained the reasoning pretty rationally to us. He had worked his way up through Juco since there was more scholarship money available for him than if he went to a 4 year school where the NCAA limits the money to 11.7 scholarships (or, roughly, 50% per player if you spread it evenly, which rarely happens, so you have 4-5 guys getting 80% and a bunch of others getting next to nothing). He flat out said, "I'm juicing this year so that I can put up the numbers to get some money from coach to pay for school next year since I can't afford to finish my degree on my own dime and I'm already maxing out my loans to scrape by in my junior season trying to prove my worth for my senior year." And he made good on the promise and got off the junk for his senior year. Which, oddly enough, made him about half as productive with the bat.

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It's funny that these conversations keep coming up. The same people with all the same reasons/excuses. This problem is EXTREMELY simple.

 

Mr./Ms. Student Athlete - These are the rules, comply and we'll pay for your education. Don't comply, and suffer what ever consequence we deem appropriate. No, we don't care if you agree.

 

Your CHOICE.

let's not act like a rule needs to be broken in order to lose their scholarship. it's a one sided contract allowing a member school out of that contract for no reason at all.

 

student/athletes are "encouraged" to leave schools all the time.

let's stay on target...that's not what we're talking about here.

 

the fact that the NCAA won't allow student athletes to be treated any differently than an ordinary student yet they expect them to be held to a much higher standard( by requiring random drug testing for one) is ridiculous.

 

it's odd that so many players get suspended for pot and yet so few get suspended for performance enhancing drugs. I'm sure college football is just as clean as the MLB

 

Different test and costs money. When I was in school, the athletic department tested 3 male athletes and 3 female athletes randomly once a month. That's all they felt like spending that would meet the minimum NCAA requirements. My 3rd baseman was openly juicing and explained the reasoning pretty rationally to us. He had worked his way up through Juco since there was more scholarship money available for him than if he went to a 4 year school where the NCAA limits the money to 11.7 scholarships (or, roughly, 50% per player if you spread it evenly, which rarely happens, so you have 4-5 guys getting 80% and a bunch of others getting next to nothing). He flat out said, "I'm juicing this year so that I can put up the numbers to get some money from coach to pay for school next year since I can't afford to finish my degree on my own dime and I'm already maxing out my loans to scrape by in my junior season trying to prove my worth for my senior year." And he made good on the promise and got off the junk for his senior year. Which, oddly enough, made him about half as productive with the bat.

 

 

But he got his degree, right? Probably well worth it, in the end.

 

Very interesting story. Never thought about it that way before.

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It's funny that these conversations keep coming up. The same people with all the same reasons/excuses. This problem is EXTREMELY simple.

 

Mr./Ms. Student Athlete - These are the rules, comply and we'll pay for your education. Don't comply, and suffer what ever consequence we deem appropriate. No, we don't care if you agree.

 

Your CHOICE.

let's not act like a rule needs to be broken in order to lose their scholarship. it's a one sided contract allowing a member school out of that contract for no reason at all.

 

student/athletes are "encouraged" to leave schools all the time.

let's stay on target...that's not what we're talking about here.

 

the fact that the NCAA won't allow student athletes to be treated any differently than an ordinary student yet they expect them to be held to a much higher standard( by requiring random drug testing for one) is ridiculous.

 

it's odd that so many players get suspended for pot and yet so few get suspended for performance enhancing drugs. I'm sure college football is just as clean as the MLB

 

Different test and costs money. When I was in school, the athletic department tested 3 male athletes and 3 female athletes randomly once a month. That's all they felt like spending that would meet the minimum NCAA requirements. My 3rd baseman was openly juicing and explained the reasoning pretty rationally to us. He had worked his way up through Juco since there was more scholarship money available for him than if he went to a 4 year school where the NCAA limits the money to 11.7 scholarships (or, roughly, 50% per player if you spread it evenly, which rarely happens, so you have 4-5 guys getting 80% and a bunch of others getting next to nothing). He flat out said, "I'm juicing this year so that I can put up the numbers to get some money from coach to pay for school next year since I can't afford to finish my degree on my own dime and I'm already maxing out my loans to scrape by in my junior season trying to prove my worth for my senior year." And he made good on the promise and got off the junk for his senior year. Which, oddly enough, made him about half as productive with the bat.

 

 

But he got his degree, right? Probably well worth it, in the end.

 

Very interesting story. Never thought about it that way before.

 

Yep. For him, it was a straight business decision that paid off.

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It's funny that these conversations keep coming up. The same people with all the same reasons/excuses. This problem is EXTREMELY simple.

 

Mr./Ms. Student Athlete - These are the rules, comply and we'll pay for your education. Don't comply, and suffer what ever consequence we deem appropriate. No, we don't care if you agree.

 

Your CHOICE.

let's not act like a rule needs to be broken in order to lose their scholarship. it's a one sided contract allowing a member school out of that contract for no reason at all.

 

student/athletes are "encouraged" to leave schools all the time.

let's stay on target...that's not what we're talking about here.

 

the fact that the NCAA won't allow student athletes to be treated any differently than an ordinary student yet they expect them to be held to a much higher standard( by requiring random drug testing for one) is ridiculous.

 

it's odd that so many players get suspended for pot and yet so few get suspended for performance enhancing drugs. I'm sure college football is just as clean as the MLB

 

Different test and costs money. When I was in school, the athletic department tested 3 male athletes and 3 female athletes randomly once a month. That's all they felt like spending that would meet the minimum NCAA requirements. My 3rd baseman was openly juicing and explained the reasoning pretty rationally to us. He had worked his way up through Juco since there was more scholarship money available for him than if he went to a 4 year school where the NCAA limits the money to 11.7 scholarships (or, roughly, 50% per player if you spread it evenly, which rarely happens, so you have 4-5 guys getting 80% and a bunch of others getting next to nothing). He flat out said, "I'm juicing this year so that I can put up the numbers to get some money from coach to pay for school next year since I can't afford to finish my degree on my own dime and I'm already maxing out my loans to scrape by in my junior season trying to prove my worth for my senior year." And he made good on the promise and got off the junk for his senior year. Which, oddly enough, made him about half as productive with the bat.

 

 

But he got his degree, right? Probably well worth it, in the end.

 

Very interesting story. Never thought about it that way before.

 

Yep. For him, it was a straight business decision that paid off.

 

 

Glad to hear he was strong enough to quit and disciplined enough to stay quit. :guinness:

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