MaltLiquorBull Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 1,389 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I think Mike White's problems couldn't be any more obvious to anyone who watches these games: can't read a defense, no pocket presence, bad situational awareness, stares at one receiver. Most of his problems should be fixed with experience and coaching, I'm very interested to see the improvement we see over the off-season from him. I really do think he has the ability to get it done, but the coaches have to help reach full potential this off-season. He has the arm and toughness, if he can't get it done next year the coaches are just as much to blame as him in my opinion. I agree with the proper coaching he can improve. However, playing in chaos may be a whole other problem. He looks great in practise I'm sure b/c they don't tackle the QB there and there is no real pressure. Come game day all bets are off and you have lineman coming at you from all angles. Not every player can handle that type of atmosphere. I hope he can overcome that. I also hope CWT gets out of the way and lets the coaches do their job so we an really see what these guys can dol. I always hear about how the offense and the QBs look great in practice before the game. I have to wonder if our defense in practice is giving them what we see in the games. 9 in the box on "obvious" Mack up the middle plays (1st and 2nd down). Blitzing on 3rd and long, etc. Maybe this is why the offense looks good in practice? I don't know. I've never seen a practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagers Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 106 Content Count: 433 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted December 1, 2014 15 more pounds on him during the offseason can do wonders. Remember, he was very thin coming into the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted December 1, 2014 15 more pounds on him during the offseason can do wonders. Remember, he was very thin coming into the program. Maybe, but that still won't help him if he can't hit receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted December 1, 2014 15 more pounds on him during the offseason can do wonders. Remember, he was very thin coming into the program. Maybe, but that still won't help him if he can't hit receivers. Depends on what you mean by "hit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmess6 Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 80 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'm sorry, but all the coaching in the world can't fix a QB missing a wide-open receiver by 2 to 3 yards. if me and apis are in agreement! well does anything else need to be said I don't see him missing that many open receivers underneath, because his eyes stay fixated down field on one target. He can make the underneath guys when he looks there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'm sorry, but all the coaching in the world can't fix a QB missing a wide-open receiver by 2 to 3 yards. if me and apis are in agreement! well does anything else need to be said I don't see him missing that many open receivers underneath, because his eyes stay fixated down field on one target. He can make the underneath guys when he looks there first. He was 11/25 (44%). Unlike other games, I don't remember that many drops and on some of the misses, the guys were open by a few yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmess6 Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 80 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'm sorry, but all the coaching in the world can't fix a QB missing a wide-open receiver by 2 to 3 yards. if me and apis are in agreement! well does anything else need to be said I don't see him missing that many open receivers underneath, because his eyes stay fixated down field on one target. He can make the underneath guys when he looks there first. He was 11/25 (44%). Unlike other games, I don't remember that many drops and on some of the misses, the guys were open by a few yards Not saying he does not miss open guys, but most of his misses are down field or when he is under heavy pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmess6 Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 80 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Just looked at his situation stats and from our 1 yard line to the our own 40 yard line Mike White is a 59% passer, rest of the field drops to 43%. I know it's normal for there to be a difference, but that is quite a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'm sorry, but all the coaching in the world can't fix a QB missing a wide-open receiver by 2 to 3 yards. if me and apis are in agreement! well does anything else need to be said I don't see him missing that many open receivers underneath, because his eyes stay fixated down field on one target. He can make the underneath guys when he looks there first. He was 11/25 (44%). Unlike other games, I don't remember that many drops and on some of the misses, the guys were open by a few yards Not saying he does not miss open guys, but most of his misses are down field or when he is under heavy pressure. There are a lot of issues that are leading to our poor QB play. Part of it is White's ability, part is on poor blocking, part is on the drops, but I believe a lot is also on poor play design. How hard is it to cover patterns, when you only send 2 receivers into patterns and there is no viable deep threat to stretch the defense? The only consistently effective pass play we had was the TE slant. Even most of the completed passes to WRs were short, underneath crossing patterns. Very little YAC. I only recall 2 long passes that were actually completed. 1 was the play Davis got hurt on and the 2nd was Ryshene Bronson's TD. Were there any other long passes completed all year? One other question. Does anyone know who the OC under Taggart was at WKU? Taggart may call the plays, but I am sure he had some help in designing the plays. Who helps with that here? He needs a lot help in more than just play calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchem1995 Posted December 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 51 Content Count: 3,355 Reputation: 1,099 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/02/2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 He was one of the last persons off the field on Friday. He looked like a whipped puppy dog. His real problem is his mental toughness. I said to him "pick your head up Mikey and get them next year" and he looked up at me and and nodded yeah. a better O-line with more time in the weight room and some key add ons ( don't know where they come from) we get to 6 wins next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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