QB: When B.J. wasn't in there & recruiting

[Flowers4Heisman]

I know we all want a few QBs in this class but it may be that Mike White is the only incoming QB.

 

Are you okay with this? I'm guessing next year is when we hit it hard and go after some prospects.

 

What was Holtz thinking? With the same offensive scheme, next year was going to be a debacle never witnessed on the Bulls' football field without B.J. part II.

 

I think our new Coach and staff are going to change everything offensively. I don't think we've ever seen Bulls' football like this. I'm talking about the QB doing all the work. Jim Leavitt implemented this system and got the QBs that we needed to run it. Remember when we didn't have the right QB in there? Thank goodness for Matt Grothe and B.J. Daniels.

 

Okay, so we are going to run the ball.

 

But do we have the linemen to open holes who are ready to start? That seems to have been the weakness of USF football for so many years.

 

I guess I'm just a little worried about next year, offensively speaking. I know we are going to have a better defense, and this class is going to help a lot.

 

 

 

 

[SANJAY]

My guess is that the existing OL will be pounded into shape. They looked soft last year. Also expect to see a lot of 2 TE and H back.

As for QB, Holtz recruited

2010- Gunsby

2011- Matt Floyd

2012- no one; took little eveld and Trent miller as walk ons.

That's a disaster. The decision not to take a scholarship QB last year after Tyler Cameron bailed was nonsensical.

[Who'sYourData?]

This probably isn't the right place for this thread, but I assume Trip will move it.

 

Holtz was thinking that he had Woulard locked up, which he did until Holtz was fired.  No knowing whether AW would have stayed committed, you can't blame it on Holtz for this year.  You can blame Holtz for not bringing in a QB last year.

 

Based on what we are hearing, this will be a run first team.  I think we'll be fine a QB for next year, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a transfer.

[Bull-by-Marriage]

I know we all want a few QBs in this class but it may be that Mike White is the only incoming QB.

 

Are you okay with this? I'm guessing next year is when we hit it hard and go after some prospects.

 

What was Holtz thinking? With the same offensive scheme, next year was going to be a debacle never witnessed on the Bulls' football field without B.J. part II.

 

I think our new Coach and staff are going to change everything offensively. I don't think we've ever seen Bulls' football like this. I'm talking about the QB doing all the work. Jim Leavitt implemented this system and got the QBs that we needed to run it. Remember when we didn't have the right QB in there? Thank goodness for Matt Grothe and B.J. Daniels.

 

Okay, so we are going to run the ball.

 

But do we have the linemen to open holes who are ready to start? That seems to have been the weakness of USF football for so many years.

 

I guess I'm just a little worried about next year, offensively speaking. I know we are going to have a better defense, and this class is going to help a lot.

 

 

QB doing all of the work, Last year, or this upcoming year? i got lost about 1/2 way through the post. We ran quite a bit when Andre Hall was here.

Edited January 27, 2013 by Bull-by-Marriage

[Flowers4Heisman]

 

 

 

QB doing all of the work, Last year, or this upcoming year? i got lost about 1/2 way through the post. We ran quite a bit when Andre Hall was here.

 

Yeah, Andre Hall was our Berry Sanders and the Detroit Lions; Berry did all the work.

 

I hope McCray becomes great for us.

[charsibb]

Hope this formats well....

 

Here are all the folks on the roster, plus all the recruits. Our offensive big uglies are first, then everybody else, then the seniors who have finished their eligibility (AFAIK)

 

As you can see, we've got some size, and hopefully some good talent, on the front line. Should be able to open up a hole or two from time to time...

 

No.    Pos.    Ht.    Wt.    Yr.    Name    Hometown (Prev School)
78      OC    6-03    286    RSo.    Austin Reiter    Bradenton, Fla. (Lakewood Ranch HS)
72      OG    6-03    301    RJr.    Steven Jacques    Hollywood, Fla. (South Broward HS)
75      OL    6-04    270    Fr.    Kofi Amichia    Powder Springs, Ga. (McEachern HS)
68      OL    6-05    282    Fr.    Kameron Davis    Lauderhill, Fla. (Northeast HS)
63      OL    6-03    275    Fr.    Kyle Van Atta    Fort Walton Beach, Fla. (Fort Walton Beach HS)
65      OL    6-03    313    Jr.    Lawrence Martin    Daytona Beach, Fla. (Merced College) (Seabreeze HS)
61      OL    6-04    326    Jr.    James Walker-Brown    Kissimmee, Fla. (Langston University) (Osceola HS)
71      OL    6-05    280    RFr.    Mak Djulbegovic    Tampa, Fla. (Carollwood Day School)
66      OL    6-04    304    RFr.    Brynjar Gudmundsson    Wellington, Fla. (Wellington HS)
64      OL    6-04    309    RFr.    Thor Jozwiak    Eagle Lake, Fla. (Lake Region )
67      OL    6-05    282    RFr.    Max Lang    Orlando, Fla. (Boone HS)
69      OL    6-05    288    RFr.    Jake Smith    Brandon, Fla. (Bloomingdale HS)
70      OL    6-06    301    RSo.    Quinterrius Eatmon    Prichard, Ala. (C F Vigor)
77      OL    6-09    308    RSo.    Jake Kaufman    Jersey City, N.J. (St. Peters Prepartory School)
76      OL    6-05    292    So.    Darrell Williams    Orlando, Fla. (Evans HS)
43      TE    6-03    224    Fr.    Jackson Cannon    Land O'Lakes, Fla. (Land O'Lakes HS)
12      TE    6-03    240    Fr.    Sean Price    Citra, Fla. (North Marion HS)
41      TE    6-03    233    RSo.    Jake Carlton    Bradenton, Fla. (Lakewood Ranch HS)
80      TE    6-05    243    RSo.    Mike McFarland    Tampa, Fla. (Florida) (Blake HS)
                        
New for 2013                        
                        
01. Cameron Fraser OT                        
05. Connor Rafferty OT                         
06. Cameron Ruff OG                        
08. Dominique Threatt OG                         
15. Joe Fennell  OT/DT                         
23. Jeremi Hall OG                            
                        
Other positions                        
                        
30      DB    6-01    175    Fr.    Jalen Spencer    Pensacola, Fla. (Pensacola HS)
04    DB    5-11    176    Fr.    Chris Bivins Jr.    Gainesville, Fla. (Gainesville HS)
47      DB    5-09    180    Fr.    Tabarie Sullivan    Orlando, Fla. (Boone HS)
14      DB    6-01    187    Jr.    Fidel Montgomery    Marianna, Fla. (Southwest Mississippi CC) (Marianna HS)
25      DB    6-01    181    Jr.    Joshua Brown    Lancaster, Texas (Arizona Western CC) (Lancaster HS)
27      DB    5-11    175    Jr.    Antonio Hughes    Jacksonville, Fla. (Fond Du Lac CC) (First Coast HS)
23      DB    6-01    176    RFr.    Kenneth Durden    Valdosta, Ga. (Lowndes HS)
29      DB    6-03    216    RFr.    C.J. Garye    Tallahassee, Fla. (Lincoln HS)
39      DB    5-10    192    RFr.    Tyler Robb    Tampa, Fla. (Tampa Catholic HS)
43      DB    5-09    175    RFr.    Zach Fisher    Stuart, Fla. (South Fork HS)
37      DB    6-01    210    RSo.    Trevon Griffin    Miami, Fla. (Navy) (Miramar HS)
41      DB    5-09    202    So.    Tommie Hankerson    Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. (Dean College) (Boyd Anderson HS)
54      DE    6-02    260    RJr.    Julius Forte    St. Petersburg, Fla. (Boca Ciega HS)
97      DE    6-03    266    RJr.    Ryne Giddins    Seffner, Fla. (Armwood HS)
90      DL    6-02    324    Fr.    James Hamilton    Orlando, Fla. (Olympia HS)
91      DL    6-03    240    Fr.    Eric Lee    Daphne, Ala. (Daphne HS)
94      DL    6-07    250    Fr.    Daniel Perry    Fort Lauderdale, Fla. (University School)
98      DL    6-04    252    Fr.    Guito Ervilus    Orlando, Fla. (Oak Ridge HS)
61      DL    6-02    295    Jr.    Stefan Konjanovski    Largo, Fla. (Largo HS)
63      DL    6-04    308    Jr.    Soslan Gagloev    Alagir, North Ossetia, Russia (Webber International)
99      DL    6-03    245    Jr.    Tevin Mims    Round Rock, Texas (Texas/Navarro JC) (Stony Point HS)
56      DL    6-03    274    RFr.    Clavion Nelson    Hollywood, Fla. (South Broward HS)
19      DL    6-06    262    So.    Aaron Lynch    Cape Coral, Fla. (Notre Dame) (Island Coast HS)
53      DL    6-02    293    So.    Elkino Watson    Miami, Fla. (Booker T. Washington)
92      DT    6-03    297    RJr.    Luke Sager    Niceville, Fla. (Niceville HS)
93      DT    6-01    281    RJr.    Demi Thompson    Longwood, Fla. (Lake Mary HS)
95      DT    6-01    312    RSo.    Todd Chandler    Miami, Fla. (Northwestern HS)
33      FB    6-03    249    So.    Tye Turner    Hampton, Ga. (Griffin HS)
49      K    6-01    185    RFr.    Mattias Ciabatti    Tampa, Fla. (Hillsborough HS)
27      K    6-01    198    RSo.    Marvin Kloss    Naples, Fla. (Barron Collier HS)
51      LB    6-03    190    Fr.    Tashon Whitehurst    Gainesville, Fla. (Gainesville HS)
42      LB    6-01    226    RFr.    Corian Hamilton    Orlando, Fla. (Olympia HS)
44      LB    6-02    229    RFr.    Antoine Pozniak    Jersey City, N.J. (Bishop Grimes HS) (Oak Ridge Academy)
52      LB    6-03    214    RFr.    Zack Bullock    Sebring, Fla. (Sebring HS)
58      LB    6-02    215    RFr.    Edsel Caprice    Cape Coral, Fla. (Cape Coral HS)
11      LB    6-01    237    RJr.    Ryan Eppes    Seminole, Fla. (Largo HS)
34      LB    6-01    232    RJr.    Devekeyan "DeDe" Lattimore    Athens, Ga. (Cedar Shoals HS)
16      LB    6-02    223    RSo.    Reshard Cliett    Thomasville, Ga. (Thomas Country Central HS)
48      LB    6-01    242    RSo.    Ruben Garcia    Plant City, Fla. (Durant High School)
50      LB    6-01    220    RSo.    Hans Louis    Hollywood, Fla. (Chaminade Madonna College Prep)
45      LB    5-11    217    So.    Brandon Harris    Jacksonville, Fla. (Wolfson HS)
59      LS    5-11    149    Fr.    Alex Salvato    Lakeland, Fla. (Victory Christian Academy)
62      LS    6-01    213    RFr.    David Burdetsky    Jacksonville, Fla. (Trinity Christian HS)
47      P    6-03    218    RSo.    Chris Veron    Ocala, Fla. (Forest HS)
16      QB    6-05    184    Fr.    Tommy Eveld    Tampa, Fla. (Jesuit HS)
18      QB    6-01    190    Fr.    Trenton Miller    Palmetto, Fla. (Palmetto HS)
13      QB    6-05    215    Jr.    Bobby Eveld    Tampa, Fla. (Jesuit HS)
11      QB    6-01    206    RFr.    Matt Floyd    Milton, Fla. (Milton HS)
20      RB    5-09    189    Jr.    Marcus Shaw    Arcadia, Fla. (De Soto HS)
38      RB    5-08    180    Jr.    Kyle Peck    Lakeland, Fla. (North Greenville University) (George Jenkins HS)
45      RB    5-10    206    Jr.    Michael Pierre    Winter Garden, Fla. (Golden West College) (Agape Christian)
32      RB    5-09    205    RFr.    Willie Davis    Lithonia, Ga. (Stephenson HS)
24      RB    5-09    209    RJr.    Bradley Battles    Marianna, Fla. (Marianna HS)
39      RB    5-11    243    So.    Grant White    Watertown, N.Y. (Jefferson CC) (South Jefferson HS)
26      S    5-10    200    Jr.    Mark Joyce    Deland, Fla. (Deland HS)
03    S    6-02    188    RJr.    JaQuez Jenkins    St. Petersburg, Fla. (Lakewood HS)
17      WR    6-05    204    Fr.    D'Vario Montgomery    Winter Park, Fla. (Winter Park HS)
25      WR    5-09    160    Fr.    Clinton Jones    Fort Lauderdale, Fla. (Blanche Ely HS)
84      WR    6-03    191    Fr.    Alex Mut    Port Charlotte, Fla. (Charlotte HS)
10      WR    5-10    164    Jr.    Terrence Mitchell    Tampa, Fla. (Hillsborough HS)
22      WR    5-08    175    Jr.    Jonny Sitton    Largo, Fla. (Shorter University) (Indian Rocks Christian School)
86      WR    6-03    217    RFr.    Jimel Atkins    Jacksonville, Fla. (Central Conn. St.) (Ponte Vedra HS)
02    WR    6-01    194    RJr.    Sterling Griffin    Opa Locka, Fla. (Miami Monsignor Pace HS)
87      WR    5-05    160    RJr.    Derrick Hopkins    Opa Locka, Fla. (Miami Monsignor Pace HS)
01    WR    6-01    180    RSo.    Chris Dunkley    Pahokee, Fla. (Florida) (Pahokee HS)
82      WR    6-02    219    RSo.    Jordan Duval    Tampa, FL (Hillsborough HS)
83      WR    6-01    202    RSo.    Deonte Welch    Williston, Fla. (Williston HS)
81      WR    6-01    207    So.    Andre Davis    Tampa, Fla. (Jefferson HS)
85      WR    6-03    202    So.    Ruben Gonzalez    Tampa, Fla. (Robinson HS)
                        
New for 2013                        
                        
02. Johnny Ward CB 6/23/12                         
03. Darius Whitty CB 6/23/12                         
04. Bruce Hector DT 6/25/12                         
07. Mitchell Wright LB 7/17/12                         
09. Robert Garcia DE 7/31/12                         
10. Emilio Nadelman K 9/2/12                         
11. Zach Benjamin WR 10/17/12                         
12. Mike White QB 12/8/12                         
13. Torrel Saffold CB 12/10/12                         
14. Rahmon Swain LB 12/11/12                         
16. Nate Godwin   DB   12/24/12.                         
17. Eric Mayes DE      1/20/13                            
18. Mike Love DE       1/20/13                            
19. Derrick Calloway  DT   1/20/13                            
20. Hassan Childs  CB      1/20/13                             
21. Auggie Sanchez  ATH   1/22/13                            
22. Nigel Harris LB   1/23/13                           
24. Lamar Robbins DB 1/27/13                         
25. Stafon McCray RB 1/27/13                         
                        
Graduated                        
                        
06    CB    5-11    198    Sr.    Kayvon Webster    Opa Locka, Fla. (Miami Monsignor Pace HS)
22      CB    5-11    180    5Sr.    George Baker    Miami, Fla. (Archbishop Carroll HS)
31      DB    5-10    194    Sr.    Ernie Tabuteau    Miami, Fla. (North Miami HS)
96      DL    6-04    283    Sr.    Anthony Hill    Pensacola, Fla. (Pensacola HS)
57      DL    6-05    240    Sr.    Colton Hudson    Bradenton, Fla. (Bradenton Christian)
46      DT    6-02    316    5Sr.    Cory Grissom    LaGrange, Ga. (Troup County HS)
40      FB    5-11    229    5Sr.    Chris Breit    Tampa, Fla. (H.B. Plant HS)
38      FB    6-02    239    RSr.    Spencer Cavalieri    Tampa, Fla. (Gaither HS)
28      K    5-10    176    5Sr.    Maikon Bonani    Lake Wales, Fla. (Lake Wales HS)
36      LB    6-01    230    Sr.    Sam Barrington    Jacksonville, Fla. (Terry Parker HS)
40      LB    6-02    220    Sr.    Kalin Hall    Bradenton, Fla. (Bayshore HS)
35      LB    6-01    222    Sr.    Mike Jeune    Jacksonville, Fla. (Independence CC) (Terry Parker HS)
55      LB    6-01    242    5Sr.    Michael Lanaris    Lake Mary, Fla. (Lake Mary HS)
60      OG    6-03    307    Sr.    Danous Estenor    Palm Beach, Fla. (Palm Beach Central HS)
73      OT    6-05    325    5Sr.    Damien Edwards    Chandler, Ariz. (Chandler HS)
74      OT    6-07    299    5Sr.    Mark Popek    Plant City, Fla. (Plant City HS)
18      P    6-02    214    5Sr.    Justin Brockhaus-Kann    Winter Springs, Fla. (Winter Springs HS)
07    QB    6-01    217    RSr.    B.J. Daniels    Tallahassee, Fla. (Lincoln HS)
05    RB    5-09    180    Sr.    Lindsey Lamar    Tampa, Fla. (Hillsborough HS)
21      RB    6-01    215    5Sr.    Demetris Murray    Buford, Ga. (Buford HS)
08    S    6-01    205    5Sr.    Jon Lejiste    Delray Beach, Fla. (Atlantic Community HS)
09    TE    6-03    236    Sr.    Evan Landi    Coral Springs, Fla. (Coral Springs Charter HS)
89      TE    6-04    266    5Sr.    Jeff Hawkins    Ocala, Fla. (Vanguard HS)
88      TE    6-04    248    5Sr.    Andreas Shields    Tampa, Fla. (Wharton HS)
19      WR    6-01    184    Sr.    David Aristil    Boynton Beach, Fla. (Park Vista HS)
15      WR    5-11    220    Sr.    Victor Marc    Hallandale, Fla. (Hallandale HS)
 

[charsibb]

Oh, and BTW, before anybody asks, LS = Long Snapper

[JupiterBull]

This probably isn't the right place for this thread, but I assume Trip will move it.

 

Holtz was thinking that he had Woulard locked up, which he did until Holtz was fired.  No knowing whether AW would have stayed committed, you can't blame it on Holtz for this year.  You can blame Holtz for not bringing in a QB last year.

 

Based on what we are hearing, this will be a run first team.  I think we'll be fine a QB for next year, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a transfer.

Woulard was NEVER a lock.  He was gone the first time he got a better offer.  Holtz should've had 2 lined up...maybe he was afraid of bruising AW's ego.

[Gismo]

I think Floyd will do better in Taggart's offense than in Holtz's. I am pretty optimistic that Floyd will surprise us. I think physchology was a big part of last seasons failures and the new psychology Taggart is bringing will surprise us all. At least now with a new staff I can be optimistic again.

Edited January 27, 2013 by Gismo

[Who'sYourData?]

This probably isn't the right place for this thread, but I assume Trip will move it.

 

Holtz was thinking that he had Woulard locked up, which he did until Holtz was fired.  No knowing whether AW would have stayed committed, you can't blame it on Holtz for this year.  You can blame Holtz for not bringing in a QB last year.

 

Based on what we are hearing, this will be a run first team.  I think we'll be fine a QB for next year, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a transfer.

Woulard was NEVER a lock.  He was gone the first time he got a better offer.  

 

You don't know that.  He decommitted pretty much immediately after Holtz was fired.