RandyGator Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 37 Content Count: 821 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/02/2005 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Just for information here is the NCAA rule on this. RULE 8, SECTION 5, ARTICLE 1. It is a safety when: a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an incomplete forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player on, above or behind his own goal line, or becomes dead by rule, and the defending team is responsible for the ball being there (A.R. 6-3-1-IV; A.R. 7-2-4-I; A.R. 8-5-1-I-II, IV and VI-VIII; A.R. 8-7-2-II; and A.R. 9-4-1-VIII). The provision that applies is that the defending team was responsible for the ball being downed in the end zone. Edited January 4, 2013 by RandyGator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hem Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted January 4, 2013 LOL @GAUSFBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 1,389 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case. Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case. Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2. No? Only 1 point was available for the PAT, since the ball was kicked, and then blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Martin Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 8,044 Reputation: 228 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/23/2005 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case. Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2. No? Only 1 point was available for the PAT, since the ball was kicked, and then blocked. But had a Oregon player picked it up in the backfield and ran it in, it would have been 2 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case. Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2. No? If they did a 2 point conversion, turned the ball over and they ran it back to the opposite end zone they only would get 2 points. In the NFL it would be 6. This is exactly what I thought of when they said they got 1 vs 2. Edited January 4, 2013 by slick1ru2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobulls83 Posted January 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 92 Content Count: 3,475 Reputation: 95 Days Won: 7 Joined: 02/14/2006 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case. Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2. No? If they did a 2 point conversion, turned the ball over and they ran it back to the opposite end zone they only would get 2 points. In the NFL it would be 6. No, it wouldn't. In the NFL, any turnover on either an extra point or a two-point conversion is an immediate dead ball. Only the team that just scored a touchdown can score on the PAT in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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