1 point Safety last night

[RandyGator]

I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case.

Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2.

No?

Only 1 point was available for the PAT, since the ball was kicked, and then blocked.

But had a Oregon player picked it up in the backfield and ran it in, it would have been 2 points.

Yes, but the key word you mention and some may miss is the blocked kick must be recovered by the kicking team in their backfield in order to advance into the end zone for 2 points. If recovered past the line of scrimmage it is a dead ball. This happened in a game just a week or so ago, sorry don't remember which, slept since then.

[RandyGator]

I thought the rule goes back to, in college, the opposing team can only get the number of points available on the play to the team with possession, ie 1 point in this case.

Then one could argue that the number of points available was 2 -- as in they had a 2 point conversion available, but they chose to kick--they could have just as well have faked the PAT kick and gone for 2.

No?

If they did a 2 point conversion, turned the ball over and they ran it back to the opposite end zone they only would get 2 points. In the NFL it would be 6.

No, it wouldn't. In the NFL, any turnover on either an extra point or a two-point conversion is an immediate dead ball. Only the team that just scored a touchdown can score on the PAT in the NFL.

Correct

[E.T.]

Ball will be either Dead or points in HS

[lewdtenant]

Oregon did kick off after this happened right... so it wasn't like a "standard" 2-pt safety where the team tackled in the end-zone then has to kick/punt the ball to the other team. I mean could you imagine that...

But seriously football is cool but some of the rules are asinine. Couple that with the fact that NCAA and NFL don't share the same rules... it's just ludicrous.

[IHuckItDeep]

Ha! Awesome

[Doc]

In the NCAA, a safety on a conversion is always worth one point (whether first kicked or on a 2-point try). Theoretically, the team who just scored can get tackled in their own endzone (98 yards away) for a conversion safety for the other team (and the score be 6-1); very unlikely, but could happen if there is a turnover, long return, a second turnover before the player scores, the kicking team then recovers, retreats into their own endzone, and is tackled. Another question: if it is the 3rd OT and the team has to go for 2, but the play results in a turnover and a conversion safety worth one-point, can that team win if the other team fails on its two-point try? I assume so, since you only have to "go" for two, but if you somehow get one-point on a conversion safety, it should still stand. Something like this once almost happened (Kent/Tenn I think) where the ruling should have been a safety (for the win) but the refs missed it an no points were awarded.

Oddly enough, in the NFL rulebook, there is a stipulation for a "conversion safety" as well, worth 1-point. However, on a try, a change-of-possession results in the play being blown dead instantly, so the defense cannot retreat into its own endzone after a recovery. However, on a loose ball, a defender could bat the ball into his own endzone, providing a new impetus and resulting in a conversion safety of one point for the originally-scoring team (7-0). In the NFL, a missed kick (blocked or otherwise) results in a dead play; once the ball leaves the kicker's foot, it is either good or no-good, and a blocked kick cannot be advanced by either team. Also, the team just scored upon CANNOT score on a point-after in the NFL, ever, regardless of the situation.

[Doc]

Just curious, someone with the NCAA video game should try running backwards on the PAT after scoring a TD and take an intentional conversion safety out the back of their OWN endzone 98 yards away. Should be one point for the defense (6-1 score). I wonder how the game would handle it. . .