Future Football Schedules - Non Conference

[Mike Stuben]

Money paid to a I-AA to come to Tampa: one a year (in a couple years where we had scheduling trouble we had 2 of these). They are going to continue. Best case scenario - FAMU and to a lesser extent Bethune Cookman (they bring fans and in FAMU's case, when not suspended, they bring an awesome band). Worst case scenario, school from far away no one has heard of (example: see Stony Brook)

I don't buy USF FOOTBALL tickets to watch another school's "awesome band", I come to see football D-1A competitive football, not to watch some cupcake get paid to take a whoopin'. Games Scrimmages against teams like FAMU are boring, and do nothing to help build/maintain the USF fan base. There is no "best case scenario" when it comes to USF forcing D-1AA crap down the throats of season ticket buyers.

Most USF fans don't ... they buy to watch USF FOOTBALL ... except ones like you, apparently. You must buy to watch the other team. FCS games are staple amongst most FBS programs at our level .. Are you new to college football?

Really, then why do so many not show up for the 1-AA games, or leave right after the "awesome band" plays???

Is your vision failing, or do you have a reading comprehension problem? What is it that you don't understand about: "I come to see football D-1A competitive football, not to watch some cupcake get paid to take a whoopin'."

I wasn't in New Brunswick for the Rutgers V Princeton game, so I'm a relatively new, How about you... when did you attend your first college football game?

For obvious reasons, you completely ignored the most pertinent point of my response ... FCS games are a staple amongst most FBS programs at our level. We're going to keep playing them, so keep whining if you must. It's what we've come to expect.

I am going to give some approximate guesstimate numbers to back up Triple B's point.

I-AA fee to come play a check game in Tampa .... about $400,000

I-A fee to come play a check game in Tampa .... about $750,000

The I-A in that example is a bad Sun Belt or MAC sort of team, not someone that will drive ticket sales.

Value of all single game tickets sold for Stony Brook vs. UTEP (and I don't remember the numbers) is roughly the same. So, an extra $350,000 in USF's pockets for the same results ... a win and a home game without having to return it.

Now, like I said a while ago in this thread, it is awesome when we can do both (like last year).... but the need to have home games dictates that we will have 1 annual game vs. a I-AA.

With 4 non-conference games, I would assume that one will be a I-AA, 1or 2 will be big time I-A (meaning a power conference, not always a top team), and 1 or 2 will be I-A from a lesser league.

The argument of for 2 power league non-conference opponents would be one at home each year and the need to make the schedule tougher with the Big East's perception slipping some with the realignment of so many schools.

The argument for only one power league non-conference game would be that since we have 1 more BIG EAST game, we have an extra tough game and need to make the non-conference schedule easier.

As a fan I like the first argument, but I don't get a vote (and I didn't get a vote as a ticket salesperson, but I also would have taken option #1).

Edited November 9, 2012 by Mike Stuben

[jjlovecub]

Drinks by the pool, volcanoes, some nice hawaiian bbq, hula skirts, some usf football...oh man what a trip!

I have a crazy (and I'll keep it quick story) about USF Football playing in Hawaii .....

2002 USF was given a conditional bid to play in whatever they called the bowl game in Hawaii that year.

I knew I wanted to be at USF's first bowl game, but I couldn't afford plane tickets ... so I had to use my miles .... but award seats to Hawaii over the holidays at the last moment are hard to come by ..... so my routing was Tampa to Atlanta, to San Francisco to Honolulu. ... I would then be on the ground in Hawaii for 36 hours - just one night.... then I would fly Honolulu to Los Angeles, to Atlanta to Birmingham ... then I was on my own to figure out how to get from Birmingham back to Tampa ..... I had Delta hold that for me the day before the game that would decide our fate (Cincinnati vs. ECU I think) ... the wrong team won, we didn't get the bid, and I didn't have to fly my whirlwind trip to Hawaii and back for just one night out there.

Remember it like it was yesterday. Only good thing about the loss was it would have been hard to make it. But I would have!! To this day it is why I hate the Bearcats.

[Mike Stuben]

Drinks by the pool, volcanoes, some nice hawaiian bbq, hula skirts, some usf football...oh man what a trip!

I have a crazy (and I'll keep it quick story) about USF Football playing in Hawaii .....

2002 USF was given a conditional bid to play in whatever they called the bowl game in Hawaii that year.

I knew I wanted to be at USF's first bowl game, but I couldn't afford plane tickets ... our fate (Cincinnati vs. ECU I think) ... the wrong team won, we didn't get the bid, and I didn't have to fly my whirlwind trip to Hawaii and back for just one night out there.

We watched that game from the Beef O'Brady's up on Fowler, with a lot of the USF players there, pulling for ECU to win...just win...doesn't have to be an arse whooping, but just a win. Well...didn't happen. Which worked out sort of well, as I spent the entire evening, while watching the game, scheming and plotting on how I could sell this trip to the Mrs. My toe-hold was that she was born in Honolulu and... but, as Pirate fate would have it, no reason to get the luggage out of the attic.

I was at that same Beef's. I remember getting the call from friends to meet them there. I thought I would watch the game and head home. We were so disappointed in the results that I don't think I got home until 4 or 5 the next morning. To be young again. Now if I want to drink at 5AM, then I better get to bed early and set my alarm.

[South_Florida_Flip]

I have spoken with Bill in the past month and he indicated USF and a few ACC schools are talking right now. (upper-half ACC)

Doesn't seem like we're changing philosophy so much.

[snarling Bull]

We have gotten worse because we hired Skippy not because we have not played UCF and the O'Liars. Maybe it is better since I would guess we would be 1 and 2 against them under Skippy's watch.

i think it might be 0-3 in the Holtz new error

[BDYZR]

How about we look at "pay" home games. Just an example........

The WAC has dissolved as a football conference.

Pay WAC leftovers to visit Ray-Jay..... Idaho & New Mexico State,

They need games & Cash.......

I say we pay them to come here with NO return games.......

Just thinking out of the box........

or

Home & Home with Hawaii..... I like this...... (Hawaii in late Nov or Dec.)

Ty

Pretty sure the rule is still out there too ... any year you go to Hawaii, you can schedule 13 games. The NCAA made the rule to help Hawaii get home games, so it allows you to add one more game to the schedule, which is very lucrative.

Might be our only chance at a 13th game...