NewEnglandBull Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Over the years it seems to me that USF typically gets beaten by a team that has big offensive lineman and play smash mouth football. Yet when we play teams that use the spread and play finesse football we usually win or play well. Does USF have to go through a cultural football change to be successful in the Big East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Been that way for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrujilloBull2013 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 33 Content Count: 1,719 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted September 14, 2012 i said the same thing all last night. their OLinemen are massive and their QB had time to pass on us all night. so is their DLine. our run game got SMASHED by their big front four, who looked as big as some OL... their LBs looked like DEs. we didnt have a gameplan that played to our strengths OR their weaknesses. our pass game was all vertical and our run game was up the gut. we got lucky on a few bomb passes but we couldn't sustain a drive for ****. there didn't seem to be many screens, tosses or anything to get our faster athletes into open space. we just ran into their arms, and passed over their head with a bunch of 50/50 balls and overthrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrujilloBull2013 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 33 Content Count: 1,719 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted September 14, 2012 someone tell Skip Holtz we're not Oregon or Oklahoma State. BJ is not going to win many games throwing long every other play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 14, 2012 someone tell Skip Holtz we're not Oregon or Oklahoma State. BJ is not going to win many games throwing long every other play. Yeah, we also aren't going to win many games trying to pound it with Murray and Lamar between the tackles. I did not see them running free last night. The strength of our offense right now is speed, speed and more speed. We try to pound the ball we are going to win two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatDaddyBull Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 34 Content Count: 2,166 Reputation: 225 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/09/2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Fwiw, I'd rather throw a bomb on every play then try pounding the ball in between the tackles. At last we've had some success down the field. But there was no doubt who the stronger team was last night. USF was much faster, but didn't take advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,661 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Teams like Rutgers run a pro style offense. Big OL, big WRs, big TEs that block and catch and a tough shifty back that you can run 25-30 times a game up the middle. The pound you to death with the running game and then play action pass when you crowd the line. This system teaches you to be more physical because they practice against each other all year. That was very evident last night. Their QBs are more drop back passers rather than dual threats. This is the offense the Canes when they won their championships. They suck now because their recruiting has fallen off. It takes years to recruit the kind of athletes to run this system. It's easier to implement some version of the spread offense because you can get by with less talented O lineman and running QBs that can throw are easier to recruit. This is the route we have taken, and yes we struggle when we play these type of teams. Why do you think Schiano is the NFL? He ran Rutgers like an NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 i said the same thing all last night. their OLinemen are massive and their QB had time to pass on us all night. so is their DLine. our run game got SMASHED by their big front four, who looked as big as some OL... their LBs looked like DEs. we didnt have a gameplan that played to our strengths OR their weaknesses. our pass game was all vertical and our run game was up the gut. we got lucky on a few bomb passes but we couldn't sustain a drive for ****. there didn't seem to be many screens, tosses or anything to get our faster athletes into open space. we just ran into their arms, and passed over their head with a bunch of 50/50 balls and overthrows. our run game actually averaged just .2 ypc less than theirs. it was pitiful for sure but so was theirs. we only ran our backs 14 times. without that 41 TD run, they would have averaged 2.6 ypc. someone tell skip that we shouldn't pass the ball 33 times in a close game where your QB averages 4.5 ypc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz8ru Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 100 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2011 Share Posted September 14, 2012 i said the same thing all last night. their OLinemen are massive and their QB had time to pass on us all night. so is their DLine. our run game got SMASHED by their big front four, who looked as big as some OL... their LBs looked like DEs. we didnt have a gameplan that played to our strengths OR their weaknesses. our pass game was all vertical and our run game was up the gut. we got lucky on a few bomb passes but we couldn't sustain a drive for ****. there didn't seem to be many screens, tosses or anything to get our faster athletes into open space. we just ran into their arms, and passed over their head with a bunch of 50/50 balls and overthrows. That's all Bull****... The Rutgers DL even got ridiculed by a poster here for being to "small" when I posted their stats... Here is our depth chart... we aren't all that big... Maybe it's true that wearing white makes you look bigger and slower while wearing black makes you look smaller and faster... Tune in to the RU-UConn game in 3 weeks to see if that's true (that will be a blackout game where all players and fans will wear black)... Rutgers Depth Chart *Note: OR means both will likely play equal amount of plays at that position Offense WR 1. 81 Mark Harrison (Sr., 6-3, 230) 2. 14 Miles Shuler (So., 5-10, 175) LT 1. 72 Kaleb Johnson (So., 6-4, 300) 2. 74 Keith Lumpkin (rFr., 6-8, 310) LG 1. 75 Antwan Lowery (rJr., 6-4, 305) 2. 59 David Osei (rJr., 6-4, 280) C 1. 55 Betim Bujari (rSo., 6-4, 290) 2. 68 Matt McBride (rJr., 6-6, 295) RG 1. 66 Andre Civil (rJr., 6-3, 275) 2. 78 Taj Alexander (rSo., 6-4, 290) RT 1. 76 R.J. Dill (rSr., 6-7, 310) 2. 71 Devon Watkis (rSr., 6-7, 320) TE 1. 89 Paul Carrezola (Jr., 6-2, 240) 2. 10 D.C. Jefferson (Sr., 6-6, 250) WR 1. 5 Tim Wright (rSr., 6-4, 220) 2. OR 7 Quron Pratt (rJr., 6-0, 190) WR 1. 17 Brandon Coleman (rSo., 6-6, 220) 2. 18 Jeremy Deering (Jr., 6-2, 210) QB 1. 15 Gary Nova (So., 6-2, 225) 2. 19 Chas Dodd (Jr., 6-0, 200) FB 1. 46 Michael Burton (rSo., 6-0, 230) 2. 44 Sam Bergen (rSo., 6-0, 235) RB 1. 23 Jawan Jamison (rSo., 5-8, 200) 2. OR 28 Savon Huggins (So., 6-0, 200) Defense 5T-DE 1. 48 Marcus Thompson (Jr., 6-2, 260) 2. 92 Jamil Merrell (rJr., 6-4, 255) 1T-NT 1. 72 Isaac Holmes (rJr., 6-3, 275) 2. 99 Al Page (rFr., 6-2, 280) 3T-DT 1. 94 Scott Vallone (rSr., 6-3, 275) 2. 91 Darius Hamilton (Fr., 6-4, 260) RE 1. 56 Marvin Booker (rSr., 6-2, 240) 2. OR 13 Ka’Lial Glaud (Sr., 6-2, 230) WLB 1. 20 Khaseem Greene (rSr., 6-1, 230) 2. 3 Steve Longa (Fr., 6-1, 220) MLB 1. 42 Steve Beauharnais (Sr., 6-2, 230) 2. 43 Nick DePaola (rJr., 6-0, 210) SLB 1. 37 Jamal Merrell (rJr., 6-4, 220) 2. OR 45 Kevin Snyder (So., 6-3, 225) CB 1. 12 Marcus Cooper (rSr., 6-2, 190) 2. OR 25 Brandon Jones (rSr., 6-1, 185) FS 1. 32 Duron Harmon (Sr., 6-1, 200) 2. 27 Wayne Warren (rSr., 6-1, 205) SS 1. 21 Lorenzo Waters (rSo., 6-0, 200) 2. 24 Mason Robinson (rSr., 5-10, 185) CB 1. 11 Logan Ryan (rJr., 6-0, 190) 2. 9 Tejay Johnson (rFr., 6-2, 190) OR 2 Gareef Glashen (rSo., 5-10, 180) Specialists P 1. 97 Justin Doerner (Sr., 6-2, 200) 2. 96 Anthony DiPaula (rFr., 6-1, 190) PK 1. 01 Kyle Federico (Fr., 6-0, 195) 2. 95 Nick DeLouisa (rSo., 6-3, 200) PR 1. 24 Mason Robinson (rSr., 5-10, 185) 2. 07 Quron Pratt (rJr., 6-0, 190) KR 1. 18 Jeremy Deering (Jr., 6-2, 210) 2. 14 Miles Shuler (So., 5-10, 175) H 1. 82 J.T. Tartacoff (Jr., 5-11, 190) 2. 97 Justin Doerner (Sr., 6-2, 200) SN 1. 85 Robert Jones (rJr., 6-0, 210) 2. 43 Nick DePaola (rJr., 6-0, 210) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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