smmitty Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 377 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2007 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I would think that if this were to happen this could definitely affect us adding some new schools to our conference. http://collegefootba...eing-discussed/ Elimination of BcS AQ status being discussed? Believe it or not, there could be at least one postseason positive that comes out of the recent spate of expansion hysteria that’s rendering geography and tradition in college football obsolete. Speaking to Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports.com, interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas thinks “there is growing sentiment to eliminate the automatic qualification part of the BCS.” Neinas believes the moves that have been made from one conference to another over the past two years, by both the schools and the conferences, can be traced to the jockeying for membership in a BcS AQ league. “You can see what’s happening,” Neinas told Dodd. “They [conferences] are gerrymandering all over the place under the intent to maintain an automatic qualification. History has shown you don’t need that if you are qualified.” And how would you qualify if changes were to be made? The sentiment currently making the rounds would be to abolish automatic qualifying for a conference and allow the current 10 BcS slots be decided by their standings in the final set of rankings released before the start of the bowl season. Such a system — any system, for that matter — wouldn’t happen until the after the current BcS cycle ends following the 2013 season. To illustrate how dramatic a move this would be, below are the schools that played in BcS bowls in 2010, followed by the Top Ten in the next-to-last BcS rankings:2010 BcS participants: TCU-Wisconsin (Rose Bowl); Oklahoma-UConn (Fiesta Bowl); Stanford-Virginia Tech (Orange Bowl); Ohio State-Arkansas (Sugar Bowl); Auburn-LSU (BcS title game)BcS Top Ten, from one through 10: Auburn, Oregon, TCU, Stanford, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Michigan State and Boise State In such a scenario, the Big Ten, with Michigan State as the conference’s third representative, and Boise State would have been the big winners, both on the field and financially. On the other hand, the ACC would’ve lost Virginia Tech and the Big East UConn, which wasn’t even ranked in the Top 25 at the time the bids were handed out. It would appear those latter two conferences would be against such a radical change to the current BcS system; in two of the past three years, each conference’s champion has finished outside of the Top Ten in the BcS rankings leading into the postseason. The Big East’s objection to such a sweeping change could be mitigated somewhat by the potential addition of Boise State, although past performance is no guarantee of future financial BcS success. Of course, power conferences such as the SEC and Big Ten would likely favor any system that included more chances for their membership to be included in a revamped BcS system, as would a conference like the Mountain West, especially if it were to retain Boise State. Dodd makes sure to note that it’s unclear how much support such a significant revamping would garner among conference commissioners, or how the all-mighty dollar would be divvied up. As far as Neinas is concerned, however, the overriding issue appears to be finding some way to put a halt to the game of conference musical chairs that’s been at the forefront of college football news since the spring of last year. “You can make it on your merit without having to be in an automatic qualifying situation,” Neinas said. “That would solve some problems here with people just scrambling because they think they have to take in certain institutions. Let’s eliminate automatic qualification. If you merit it, you’re in … “The point is, then you wouldn’t have this effort to cobble together a conference for the purpose of automatic qualification.” Such a change to the BcS that’s being tossed around certainly doesn’t solve the real issue in college football on the field — lack of a playoff system — but at least another slothful trudge toward where the system ultimately needs to be could be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,077 Reputation: 1,388 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I wonder if the next iteration of BCS rules (whenever it comes, and whether or not it goes to a playoff system) will have special rules for Notre Dame still written into them. That crap has to stop, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2011 if they think OOC schedules are bad now wait until this. we would actually be better off if boise and the others didn't come over if this happened. it would benefit us to play in a weak conference and get inflated ratings rather than play in a difficult conference where we have a better chance to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I wonder if the next iteration of BCS rules (whenever it comes, and whether or not it goes to a playoff system) will have special rules for Notre Dame still written into them. That crap has to stop, too. that won't stop. those bowls would rather have ND than almost anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Such an arrangement would be best for SEC, B10 and B12 who historically have multiple teams in top 10. Not so good for P12, ACC or BE who may only have 1 most years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Such an arrangement would be best for SEC, B10 and B12 who historically have multiple teams in top 10. Not so good for P12, ACC or BE who may only have 1 most years. That's why they want to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Such an arrangement would be best for SEC, B10 and B12 who historically have multiple teams in top 10. Not so good for P12, ACC or BE who may only have 1 most years. That's why they want to change it. Agreed, but now we'll have warfare between the BCS conferences. Or they could just agree that they keep the AQ but allow a 3d team from a conference every couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Such an arrangement would be best for SEC, B10 and B12 who historically have multiple teams in top 10. Not so good for P12, ACC or BE who may only have 1 most years. That's why they want to change it. Agreed, but now we'll have warfare between the BCS conferences. Or they could just agree that they keep the AQ but allow a 3d team from a conference every couple years. it will hurt teams within those conferences just as much. Big 10 champ illinois would not have made a BCS game. it really is just a way for the networks to pick the more popular teams for their bowls. it's unfortunate because they sell it as a team earning their way there when in fact the top programs that get all the advantages in the polls will have an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Funny how he complains about (obviously the Big East) "gerrymandering". Was it not a spat within the Big 12 (Longhorn network controversy) which started all of this? Is the Big East and USF just supposed to accept their fate and quit? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 10, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Anyone who really believes this would benefit the NBE is nuts. I hope this doesn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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