Guest Scherdin Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Where did I say the Rays are getting the shaft every year? You are right the Rays have only been good the last two years, but when the Yankees and Red Sox have the money to spend at will and improve beyond what most teams can before and during a season it creates an imbalance. So the wildcard team will usually end up being one of them. So all the other teams that don't win their division are at a disadvantage.Funny. The Marlins don't seem to have the same problem with having to pay big bucks to get good talent. Maybe the Rays have a generally deficient farm system, or maybe Larry Beinfest is a genius.The Marlins pay...didn't MLB have to sanction the owner to increase their payroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted April 1, 2010 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 17,461 Reputation: 1,223 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 Where did I say the Rays are getting the shaft every year? You are right the Rays have only been good the last two years, but when the Yankees and Red Sox have the money to spend at will and improve beyond what most teams can before and during a season it creates an imbalance. So the wildcard team will usually end up being one of them. So all the other teams that don't win their division are at a disadvantage.Funny. The Marlins don't seem to have the same problem with having to pay big bucks to get good talent. Maybe the Rays have a generally deficient farm system, or maybe Larry Beinfest is a genius.The Marlins pay...didn't MLB have to sanction the owner to increase their payrolland yet we still won 87 games last year, which was the posters point. We win without spending big bucks because we have the best front office in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scherdin Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 No that means you have some of the best coaching to turn talent into wins...a top front office would help supplement some other quality players and verterans around your talent to get you in the playoffs instead of balancing around .500 the last 6-7 years. You have only made the playoffs once in the last 10 years.I'll give you that your team has done some very good things and the Rays are following a similar model that has been working for you. The switch in the owner, our front office and our coaching is doing the same, hopefully we will be able to do more then what your team is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted April 1, 2010 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 17,461 Reputation: 1,223 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 No that means you have some of the best coaching to turn talent into wins...a top front office would help supplement some other quality players and verterans around your talent to get you in the playoffs instead of balancing around .500 the last 6-7 years. You have only made the playoffs once in the last 10 years.I'll give you that your team has done some very good things and the Rays are following a similar model that has been working for you. The switch in the owner, our front office and our coaching is doing the same, hopefully we will be able to do more then what your team is doing. Most of our players are drafted by the Fish or acquired in trades by our GM. With the resources that Beinfest is given the product he puts on the field is amazing. And BTW our Manager sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondBull Posted April 2, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 724 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 2, 2010 tampa has a good teamthey have a nice little 3rd place teamBut seem to be able to handle the marlins easilyHow many World Series Titles do the 'Rays have again?Are you serious? Is that all you people can ever say? Winning the world series in 2003 does not equate to winning games in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondBull Posted April 2, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 724 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Where did I say the Rays are getting the shaft every year? You are right the Rays have only been good the last two years, but when the Yankees and Red Sox have the money to spend at will and improve beyond what most teams can before and during a season it creates an imbalance. So the wildcard team will usually end up being one of them. So all the other teams that don't win their division are at a disadvantage.Funny. The Marlins don't seem to have the same problem with having to pay big bucks to get good talent. Maybe the Rays have a generally deficient farm system, or maybe Larry Beinfest is a genius.Yeah but the marlins didn't have terrible personnel running the team its first 8 years of existance like the rays did. and the marlins play in the NL east, which, until a few years ago had one good team - the braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scherdin Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 No that means you have some of the best coaching to turn talent into wins...a top front office would help supplement some other quality players and verterans around your talent to get you in the playoffs instead of balancing around .500 the last 6-7 years. You have only made the playoffs once in the last 10 years.I'll give you that your team has done some very good things and the Rays are following a similar model that has been working for you. The switch in the owner, our front office and our coaching is doing the same, hopefully we will be able to do more then what your team is doing. Most of our players are drafted by the ---- or acquired in trades by our GM. Hmm...sounds like the Rays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted April 2, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 2, 2010 tampa has a good team they have a nice little 3rd place team But seem to be able to handle the marlins easily How many World Series Titles do the 'Rays have again? Are you serious? Is that all you people can ever say? Winning the world series in 2003 does not equate to winning games in 2010. You forgot 1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondBull Posted April 2, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 724 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 2, 2010 tampa has a good team they have a nice little 3rd place team But seem to be able to handle the marlins easily How many World Series Titles do the 'Rays have again? Are you serious? Is that all you people can ever say? Winning the world series in 2003 does not equate to winning games in 2010. You forgot 1997 no i didnt forget it, you just seem to think that 2003 will continue to roll in to now, look, the bucs won the SB in 2003 and they suck now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted April 2, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted April 2, 2010 We won 87 games with a ton of young, inexperienced, but talented players things are looking up no matter how you try to spin it. Like i said im not gunna go out and say we will win the world series or even division but we should be competing for the wild card which with a payroll like ours is a feat in and of itself. Also take a look around the majors at all the stars we bred until they became to expensive to keep, our front office is amazing and regularly ***** teams in trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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