Leavitt & USF Mediation

[slick1ru2]

What has been strange in all of this, no claims,(ie the misterious meeting at the bewitching hour of midnight) has been substantiated. It seems as the claims are like farts. Everybody has them, they all blow off gas, but most of all they all seem to smell. 

bull

read the report-----  leavitt hit the kid

Says who?

Have you read the report? If you haven't that would explain so much. http://curezone.com/upload/PDF/Enclosure_1_Leavitt_Review_Final1.pdf

[cmhatter]

What has been strange in all of this, no claims,(ie the misterious meeting at the bewitching hour of midnight) has been substantiated. It seems as the claims are like farts. Everybody has them, they all blow off gas, but most of all they all seem to smell. 

bull

read the report-----  leavitt hit the kid

Says who?

says a few:

B claims slap

His locker was located on a wall

that was perpendicular to the wall on which Student Athlete A’s locker was located. From his

vantage point, he was able to see the entire encounter. Student Athlete B related that Student

Athlete A was looking up at Leavitt as he came toward him (walking very fast) and that Leavitt

grabbed Student Athlete A by his throat using his right hand and then struck Student Athlete A’s

head twice with an open hand. Student Athlete B told the reviewers that he knew he had

witnessed a crime and knew what he saw was wrong. He indicated he felt betrayed and that the

values and standards that had been taught to them had been violated. Student Athlete B also

reported to the reviewers that he hasn’t been able to eat or sleep due to the stress of what he

witnessed (which he categorized as an “assaultâ€). Student Athlete B was very much affected by

the encounter, so much so that in the week which followed he absented himself from his position

meeting and went to Leavitt’s office. Student Athlete B told Leavitt that he saw what happened

and needed to hear directly from the Coach. He related that Leavitt responded to his question

about the incident by saying that he “wasn’t wrong†and that he had grabbed Student Athlete A

by the shoulder pads and said only “good, positive things†to Student Athlete A. Student Athlete

B also says that Leavitt said that he was “fighting for [his] job.†Student Athlete B also said that

Leavitt told him, “you of all people [student Athlete B]. You’re the last person I would have

thought would have come and questioned meâ€. Student Athlete B related that the event was the

topic of much discussion in the locker room and that other players told Student Athlete B that

they had also seen it. He also indicated that “they all felt threatened. Felt they could be nextâ€.

C claims slap

Student Athlete C was seated very near to Student Athlete B and also had a line-of-sight

which allowed him to see the incident. He recounted that he too saw the event and described it

as Leavitt grabbing Student Athlete A by the throat with his right hand and striking him twice on

the face with an open hand. Student Athlete C described his reaction as disbelief at what had

happened.

M ALSO claims slap

Student Athlete M recounted similar facts, saying that Leavitt grabbed Student Athlete

A’s jersey and was shaking Student Athlete A’s shoulder pads to motivate him. He indicated

that Leavitt slapped Student Athlete A two times on the cheek to get his attention and was

holding his chin with his hand. According to Student Athlete M, this is “what coaches do†to

motivate Student Athletes.

L claims tapped jaw

Student Athlete L said that Leavitt put his hands on Student Athlete A by his shoulder

pads while speaking to him in a raised voice about the block and tapped Student Athlete A’s jaw

“to get his attention.†Student Athlete L said that Student Athlete A is not the only one that

Coach Leavitt got on and that he remembers him getting after Student Athlete U as well.

D said high on A's jersey with possible throat contact

Student Athlete D said that he

saw Leavitt put a hand (maybe his right hand) “high†on Student Athlete A’s jersey, indicating

that it could have been on Student Athlete A’s throat. At this point, Student Athlete D turned

his head because he “did not want to ‘catch anything himself’ or see anymore.†By the time he

returned his sight to Student Athlete A, Leavitt had his hands on the side of Student Athlete A’s

face, although Student Athlete D did not see Leavitt strike Student Athlete A.

J said hand on neck and face taps

Student Athlete J was seated near to Student Athlete A. He saw the encounter and

reported that Leavitt saw that Student Athlete A was “down,†grabbed him and said “We gotta

win! You have to do a lot better!†Student Athlete J said that Leavitt grabbed Student Athlete A

with his right hand on Student Athlete’s A’s neck or on shoulder pads in an area close to Student

Athlete A’s neck, and was pointing at him with the other hand. Then he “tapped†Student

Athlete A’s face twice “to get his attention,†as if to say (Student Athlete J’s words, not

Leavitt’s) “Snap out of it!†Student Athlete J thought it was “nothing too major,†but it “got an

‘Oh, wow, I didn’t think he was going to do that!'†reaction from him. Student Athlete J said

that the reaction from the rest of the locker room was, “What just happened?!â€

student athlete P claims leavitt was CRYING and headbutting players in the locker room

[2000bull]

What has been strange in all of this, no claims,(ie the misterious meeting at the bewitching hour of midnight) has been substantiated. It seems as the claims are like farts. Everybody has them, they all blow off gas, but most of all they all seem to smell. 

bull

read the report-----  leavitt hit the kid

Says who?

says a few:

B claims slap

His locker was located on a wall

that was perpendicular to the wall on which Student Athlete A’s locker was located. From his

vantage point, he was able to see the entire encounter. Student Athlete B related that Student

Athlete A was looking up at Leavitt as he came toward him (walking very fast) and that Leavitt

grabbed Student Athlete A by his throat using his right hand and then struck Student Athlete A’s

head twice with an open hand. Student Athlete B told the reviewers that he knew he had

witnessed a crime and knew what he saw was wrong. He indicated he felt betrayed and that the

values and standards that had been taught to them had been violated. Student Athlete B also

reported to the reviewers that he hasn’t been able to eat or sleep due to the stress of what he

witnessed (which he categorized as an “assaultâ€). Student Athlete B was very much affected by

the encounter, so much so that in the week which followed he absented himself from his position

meeting and went to Leavitt’s office. Student Athlete B told Leavitt that he saw what happened

and needed to hear directly from the Coach. He related that Leavitt responded to his question

about the incident by saying that he “wasn’t wrong†and that he had grabbed Student Athlete A

by the shoulder pads and said only “good, positive things†to Student Athlete A. Student Athlete

B also says that Leavitt said that he was “fighting for [his] job.†Student Athlete B also said that

Leavitt told him, “you of all people [student Athlete B]. You’re the last person I would have

thought would have come and questioned meâ€. Student Athlete B related that the event was the

topic of much discussion in the locker room and that other players told Student Athlete B that

they had also seen it. He also indicated that “they all felt threatened. Felt they could be nextâ€.

C claims slap

Student Athlete C was seated very near to Student Athlete B and also had a line-of-sight

which allowed him to see the incident. He recounted that he too saw the event and described it

as Leavitt grabbing Student Athlete A by the throat with his right hand and striking him twice on

the face with an open hand. Student Athlete C described his reaction as disbelief at what had

happened.

M ALSO claims slap

Student Athlete M recounted similar facts, saying that Leavitt grabbed Student Athlete

A’s jersey and was shaking Student Athlete A’s shoulder pads to motivate him. He indicated

that Leavitt slapped Student Athlete A two times on the cheek to get his attention and was

holding his chin with his hand. According to Student Athlete M, this is “what coaches do†to

motivate Student Athletes.

L claims tapped jaw

Student Athlete L said that Leavitt put his hands on Student Athlete A by his shoulder

pads while speaking to him in a raised voice about the block and tapped Student Athlete A’s jaw

“to get his attention.†Student Athlete L said that Student Athlete A is not the only one that

Coach Leavitt got on and that he remembers him getting after Student Athlete U as well.

D said high on A's jersey with possible throat contact

Student Athlete D said that he

saw Leavitt put a hand (maybe his right hand) “high†on Student Athlete A’s jersey, indicating

that it could have been on Student Athlete A’s throat. At this point, Student Athlete D turned

his head because he “did not want to ‘catch anything himself’ or see anymore.†By the time he

returned his sight to Student Athlete A, Leavitt had his hands on the side of Student Athlete A’s

face, although Student Athlete D did not see Leavitt strike Student Athlete A.

J said hand on neck and face taps

Student Athlete J was seated near to Student Athlete A. He saw the encounter and

reported that Leavitt saw that Student Athlete A was “down,†grabbed him and said “We gotta

win! You have to do a lot better!†Student Athlete J said that Leavitt grabbed Student Athlete A

with his right hand on Student Athlete’s A’s neck or on shoulder pads in an area close to Student

Athlete A’s neck, and was pointing at him with the other hand. Then he “tapped†Student

Athlete A’s face twice “to get his attention,†as if to say (Student Athlete J’s words, not

Leavitt’s) “Snap out of it!†Student Athlete J thought it was “nothing too major,†but it “got an

‘Oh, wow, I didn’t think he was going to do that!'†reaction from him. Student Athlete J said

that the reaction from the rest of the locker room was, “What just happened?!â€

student athlete P claims leavitt was CRYING and headbutting players in the locker room

so if my count is right, seven people are lying?  ;D

[Triple B]

What has been strange in all of this, no claims,(ie the misterious meeting at the bewitching hour of midnight) has been substantiated. It seems as the claims are like farts. Everybody has them, they all blow off gas, but most of all they all seem to smell. 

bull

read the report-----  leavitt hit the kid

Says who?

says a few:

B claims slap

His locker was located on a wall

that was perpendicular to the wall on which Student Athlete A’s locker was located. From his

vantage point, he was able to see the entire encounter. Student Athlete B related that Student

Athlete A was looking up at Leavitt as he came toward him (walking very fast) and that Leavitt

grabbed Student Athlete A by his throat using his right hand and then struck Student Athlete A’s

head twice with an open hand. Student Athlete B told the reviewers that he knew he had

witnessed a crime and knew what he saw was wrong. He indicated he felt betrayed and that the

values and standards that had been taught to them had been violated. Student Athlete B also

reported to the reviewers that he hasn’t been able to eat or sleep due to the stress of what he

witnessed (which he categorized as an “assaultâ€). Student Athlete B was very much affected by

the encounter, so much so that in the week which followed he absented himself from his position

meeting and went to Leavitt’s office. Student Athlete B told Leavitt that he saw what happened

and needed to hear directly from the Coach. He related that Leavitt responded to his question

about the incident by saying that he “wasn’t wrong†and that he had grabbed Student Athlete A

by the shoulder pads and said only “good, positive things†to Student Athlete A. Student Athlete

B also says that Leavitt said that he was “fighting for [his] job.†Student Athlete B also said that

Leavitt told him, “you of all people [student Athlete B]. You’re the last person I would have

thought would have come and questioned meâ€. Student Athlete B related that the event was the

topic of much discussion in the locker room and that other players told Student Athlete B that

they had also seen it. He also indicated that “they all felt threatened. Felt they could be nextâ€.

C claims slap

Student Athlete C was seated very near to Student Athlete B and also had a line-of-sight

which allowed him to see the incident. He recounted that he too saw the event and described it

as Leavitt grabbing Student Athlete A by the throat with his right hand and striking him twice on

the face with an open hand. Student Athlete C described his reaction as disbelief at what had

happened.

M ALSO claims slap

Student Athlete M recounted similar facts, saying that Leavitt grabbed Student Athlete

A’s jersey and was shaking Student Athlete A’s shoulder pads to motivate him. He indicated

that Leavitt slapped Student Athlete A two times on the cheek to get his attention and was

holding his chin with his hand. According to Student Athlete M, this is “what coaches do†to

motivate Student Athletes.

L claims tapped jaw

Student Athlete L said that Leavitt put his hands on Student Athlete A by his shoulder

pads while speaking to him in a raised voice about the block and tapped Student Athlete A’s jaw

“to get his attention.†Student Athlete L said that Student Athlete A is not the only one that

Coach Leavitt got on and that he remembers him getting after Student Athlete U as well.

D said high on A's jersey with possible throat contact

Student Athlete D said that he

saw Leavitt put a hand (maybe his right hand) “high†on Student Athlete A’s jersey, indicating

that it could have been on Student Athlete A’s throat. At this point, Student Athlete D turned

his head because he “did not want to ‘catch anything himself’ or see anymore.†By the time he

returned his sight to Student Athlete A, Leavitt had his hands on the side of Student Athlete A’s

face, although Student Athlete D did not see Leavitt strike Student Athlete A.

J said hand on neck and face taps

Student Athlete J was seated near to Student Athlete A. He saw the encounter and

reported that Leavitt saw that Student Athlete A was “down,†grabbed him and said “We gotta

win! You have to do a lot better!†Student Athlete J said that Leavitt grabbed Student Athlete A

with his right hand on Student Athlete’s A’s neck or on shoulder pads in an area close to Student

Athlete A’s neck, and was pointing at him with the other hand. Then he “tapped†Student

Athlete A’s face twice “to get his attention,†as if to say (Student Athlete J’s words, not

Leavitt’s) “Snap out of it!†Student Athlete J thought it was “nothing too major,†but it “got an

‘Oh, wow, I didn’t think he was going to do that!'†reaction from him. Student Athlete J said

that the reaction from the rest of the locker room was, “What just happened?!â€

student athlete P claims leavitt was CRYING and headbutting players in the locker room

so if my count is right, seven people are lying?  ;D

By my count, only two of those descriptions, the first two, I would classify as "hitting" ... which is why there is such a gray area with this.

[thebouncer1898]

I get it that there was some sort on contact, but doesn't any kind of "open-handed" facial contact cross the line? Isn't that a little much? When a player describes it as an "assault," regardless of how thick or thin that line is/was, it was crossed.

Leavitt brought this all upon himself. This isn't Miller's fault for receiving "open-handed" contact to his face....

[Who'sYourData?]

By my count, only two of those descriptions, the first two, I would classify as "hitting" ... which is why there is such a gray area with this.

A technicality maybe, but wasn't he effectively charged with "slapping" a student athlete?  I don't recall the term "hitting" ever being used.

[Triple B]

I get it that there was some sort on contact, but doesn't any kind of "open-handed" facial contact cross the line? Isn't that a little much? When a player describes it as an "assault," regardless of how thick or thin that line is/was, it was crossed.

I think for a person to lose his job and any monies owed him on a contract, it needs to be a slam dunk case for assault and I just don't see it here ...

[Who'sYourData?]

Regardless, seven witnesses saying with varying degrees of choking/slapping would easily trump one officer of the law saying nothing happened.

I must say that the Trooper has no choice but to make that statement.  He couldn't very well say he witnessed an assault and stood by doing nothing about it.  That would be the end of his career.

[Who'sYourData?]

1.  It doesn't need to be a slam dunk.  It only needs to be preponderance of the evidence.  This is a civil matter now.

2.  Do you want to wait until there is a "slam dunk" case before removing an abusive person from being in charge of your kids?  I'd think 75% sure or even 51% is plenty good enough.

[Triple B]

Regardless, seven witnesses saying with varying degrees of choking/slapping would easily trump one officer of the law saying nothing happened.

I would not call "tapping" a varying degree of slapping ...

I must say that the Trooper has no choice but to make that statement.  He couldn't very well say he witnessed an assault and stood by doing nothing about it.  That would be the end of his career.

And, saying that, you're assuming that an action worthy of an assault charge occured in front of him which is debatable ...