Bullpride08 Posted April 5, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 38 Content Count: 4,016 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/20/2002 Share Posted April 5, 2011 ...I hope this blows up in UCiF's face, in O'Liar and all his double dealing face, and in college football's face. Call the kid what you want but it was a tough decision, if he regrets it the NCAA should allow him out with no penalty if he can show reason, at worst he should be allowed out and be allowed to go to whatever school he wants providing he must sit a year. Be humane O'Liar shouldn't have the right to decide this child's fate like he is a deity and can bargain and parcel with this kid's livelihood. The NCAA should give no school or coach that kind of power.This is what's going to happen. Yah, he's a "kid" but he needs to learn that there are consequences to his actions. Maybe he won't be so quick to sign a binding contract in the future.Chalk it up to a learning experience.Binding contracts are a two way street my friend...UCF must honor their end of the bargain just as he must. That also means they cannot coerce, eroneously represent, knowingly and overtly lie to secure his signature. You and I are protected by law from someone that does this, and so why just because Smith's family doesn't have the means to secure an attorney he's suppose to 'chalk it up to a learning experience'. That's more a socio-economic issue then reality because in reality if UCF did what the kid and his parents are saying they did he could sue them and get an immediate release. Learning experience perhaps, but a painful one and not one he should have to endure if they did what he is claiming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
813knight Posted April 5, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 639 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2007 Share Posted April 5, 2011 ... I hope this blows up in UCiF's face, in O'Liar and all his double dealing face, and in college football's face. Call the kid what you want but it was a tough decision, if he regrets it the NCAA should allow him out with no penalty if he can show reason, at worst he should be allowed out and be allowed to go to whatever school he wants providing he must sit a year. Be humane O'Liar shouldn't have the right to decide this child's fate like he is a deity and can bargain and parcel with this kid's livelihood. The NCAA should give no school or coach that kind of power. This is what's going to happen. Yah, he's a "kid" but he needs to learn that there are consequences to his actions. Maybe he won't be so quick to sign a binding contract in the future. Chalk it up to a learning experience. Binding contracts are a two way street my friend...UCF must honor their end of the bargain just as he must. That also means they cannot coerce, eroneously represent, knowingly and overtly lie to secure his signature. You and I are protected by law from someone that does this, and so why just because Smith's family doesn't have the means to secure an attorney he's suppose to 'chalk it up to a learning experience'. That's more a socio-economic issue then reality because in reality if UCF did what the kid and his parents are saying they did he could sue them and get an immediate release. Learning experience perhaps, but a painful one and not one he should have to endure if they did what he is claiming. :lol Godfrey was his host USF fans are so caring for these poor players getting offered the chance to play the game they love and go to school for free. What a great group of fans. He had a over a year to make his decision, he made it 2 days after signing day on local TV to announce he was leaving his hometown. It doesn't get more 'look at me' than that, but he's the victim : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted April 5, 2011 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,669 Reputation: 10,888 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted April 5, 2011 ... I hope this blows up in UCiF's face, in O'Liar and all his double dealing face, and in college football's face. Call the kid what you want but it was a tough decision, if he regrets it the NCAA should allow him out with no penalty if he can show reason, at worst he should be allowed out and be allowed to go to whatever school he wants providing he must sit a year. Be humane O'Liar shouldn't have the right to decide this child's fate like he is a deity and can bargain and parcel with this kid's livelihood. The NCAA should give no school or coach that kind of power. This is what's going to happen. Yah, he's a "kid" but he needs to learn that there are consequences to his actions. Maybe he won't be so quick to sign a binding contract in the future. Chalk it up to a learning experience. Binding contracts are a two way street my friend...UCF must honor their end of the bargain just as he must. That also means they cannot coerce, eroneously represent, knowingly and overtly lie to secure his signature. You and I are protected by law from someone that does this, and so why just because Smith's family doesn't have the means to secure an attorney he's suppose to 'chalk it up to a learning experience'. That's more a socio-economic issue then reality because in reality if UCF did what the kid and his parents are saying they did he could sue them and get an immediate release. Learning experience perhaps, but a painful one and not one he should have to endure if they did what he is claiming. :lol Godfrey was his host USF fans are so caring for these poor players getting offered the chance to play the game they love and go to school for free. What a great group of fans. He had a over a year to make his decision, he made it 2 days after signing day on local TV to announce he was leaving his hometown. It doesn't get more 'look at me' than that, but he's the victim : Which decision? .... and what date was the visit where Godfrey hosted him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted April 5, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Damarcus fell in and out of love with UL several times over the last 18 months. I think the coaching staff realized that by signing TB, it forced his (Damarcus') hand..and evidently made him waiver. He was always a verbal....well at least he was, then not was then was..then no,t was..you get the idea.He made an official visit to UCF on 1/21/2011...Godfrey was his host and guide. His LOI is listed as being logged in on 2/4/2011. If his release has merit, he willl win his appeal, and I expect he will if hein fact files the appeal. I wish him luck. He has had some very adult decisions to make and it has not gone well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted April 5, 2011 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,669 Reputation: 10,888 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Damarcus fell in and out of love with UL several times over the last 18 months. I think the coaching staff realized that by signing TB, it forced his (Damarcus') hand..and evidently made him waiver. He was always a verbal....well at least he was, then not was then was..then no,t was..you get the idea.He made an official visit to UCF on 1/21/2011...Godfrey was his host and guide. His LOI is listed as being logged in on 2/4/2011. If his release has merit, he willl win his appeal, and I expect he will if hein fact files the appeal. I wish him luck. He has had some very adult decisions to make and it has not gone well.What's the deal on that? He was wavering BEFORE they went after TB?And I really doubt he wins this by appeal ... unless there are precedences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted April 5, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well, to be precise, he was verbally solid pre TB. When Strong was hired, he visited with DS to cement him at UL, because rumor had it that he was wavering on his solid verbal. He left his HS to join an accelerated program.....allowing him to enter UL early. Something went wrong, because the academic clearinghouse would not allow him to enroll early at UL ( short some credits or something like that), so he then had to want for signing day........UL signs TB.UCF visited with him, offered him an official.....and I think made more than just a medium amount of effort to give him an alternative...to UL. TB, enrolls in the Spring...is playing footballl now....now DS is now approx. 1 year behind him in UL football knowledge....DS can't attend any school until the fall. Noone knows id he is even eligible in an academic sense now! This is just from my recollection...after reading severl billion posts and articles....so I am sure others can be more precise....or shed more light.Good luck to the young man. He might as well come one down, get a year of school done and move on if he is not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
813knight Posted April 6, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 639 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2007 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Good luck to the young man. He might as well come one down, get a year of school done and move on if he is not happy.do you or anyone else know what he's decided to do? is he enrolling at Louisville regardless this fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted April 6, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted April 6, 2011 No, I have no idea. If he comes to UCF, he has a one year free ride ( I think) ...unless they pull the scholly, or if he wins his appeal. He can go anywhere else, on his dime....I have no idea what he is going to do..and he may not know himself. He does need to finsh up his missing credit so that he is eligible...to go somewhere.Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFChad Posted April 12, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 476 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/2008 Share Posted April 12, 2011 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-bianchi-ucf-big-east-villanova-20110412,0,3821874.columnSee you all sooner than later. 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ Posted April 12, 2011 Group: Member Topic Count: 617 Content Count: 4,879 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/14/2006 Share Posted April 12, 2011 i had no idea UCF's women's indoor track team was ranked this year!! My gosh, let them in now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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