Dont BOOO Pat

[windbane]

well then just keep booing guys that come in for injured players...i dont understand what you expect them to do, but i guess i wont expect better from some people

[Bullhonkey]

I'm sorry, but after reading about half of the posts here, I couldnt take it anymore....so now I'll say my part.

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

I booed Pat Julmiste. I will continue to boo Pat Julmiste, as I did ALL of last year, everytime his name is mentioned or everytime he hits the field. The guy is the worst QB in the 110 year history of college football.

He may be our 2nd best option, which is debatable, seeing that he started the season ahead of the nation's top freshman QB....so really, what does THAT say about the talent evaluation going on at the QB position? Do we really wanna get into that?

Another point, and this is a VERY important one. Pat Julmiste signed up to play quarterback for a team that plays in front of 30,000+ people. Nowhere in the application for quarterback, does it say: "If you are a classy guy and you try your hardest, no one will boo you. If you cheer for your teammates and hold your clipboard in an upright and ready position, the fans automatically waive all rights to boo you and your performance."

Quarterback, and any position for that matter, is a performance based position. At QB, you either get ALL the praise (see: Blackwell, Grothe) or ALL the blame (see: Banks, Julmiste). Quarterbacks know this going in. These are grown men, folks. Not pee-wee football players. These men are old enough to fight for our country, they're not "kids".

From students to donors to walk up ticket buyers, every person in that stadium has a right to boo. It's what makes sports so great. People have favorite players and hated players, and like to debate about them. That's what makes the sports world go round!

Bottom line: Without booing, we'd have a stadium full of E.T.

absolutely untrue, without booing we'd have a stadium full af classy fans.

Maybe the next time a cop escorts one of your pals out of the stadium you can remember what a bit of common courtesy is like. Unreal, you get treated like **** and it's "poor me" but when you treat others like **** it's your "right"

Remember this the next time you disagree with a refs call.  Remember to be "classy" when the ref blows a big call in the other teams favor.   And why can't you exhibit some of this classiness you speak soo often of, here, on the message board? Why does your party on this issue have too resort to name calling?  While you try figure it out I'll practice booing PJ in case he ever steps foot on the field again.  

[Bullhonkey]

I'm sorry, but after reading about half of the posts here, I couldnt take it anymore....so now I'll say my part.

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

I booed Pat Julmiste. I will continue to boo Pat Julmiste, as I did ALL of last year, everytime his name is mentioned or everytime he hits the field. The guy is the worst QB in the 110 year history of college football.

He may be our 2nd best option, which is debatable, seeing that he started the season ahead of the nation's top freshman QB....so really, what does THAT say about the talent evaluation going on at the QB position? Do we really wanna get into that?

Another point, and this is a VERY important one. Pat Julmiste signed up to play quarterback for a team that plays in front of 30,000+ people. Nowhere in the application for quarterback, does it say: "If you are a classy guy and you try your hardest, no one will boo you. If you cheer for your teammates and hold your clipboard in an upright and ready position, the fans automatically waive all rights to boo you and your performance."

Quarterback, and any position for that matter, is a performance based position. At QB, you either get ALL the praise (see: Blackwell, Grothe) or ALL the blame (see: Banks, Julmiste). Quarterbacks know this going in. These are grown men, folks. Not pee-wee football players. These men are old enough to fight for our country, they're not "kids".

From students to donors to walk up ticket buyers, every person in that stadium has a right to boo. It's what makes sports so great. People have favorite players and hated players, and like to debate about them. That's what makes the sports world go round!

Bottom line: Without booing, we'd have a stadium full of E.T.

absolutely untrue, without booing we'd have a stadium full af classy fans.

Maybe the next time a cop escorts one of your pals out of the stadium you can remember what a bit of common courtesy is like. Unreal, you get treated like **** and it's "poor me" but when you treat others like **** it's your "right"

Apparently you didnt read my post on page 4 of that thread. Do yourself a favor and go do that.

It's laughable that people are associating booing with "being classy". Everything in this world isnt flowers and lollipops, stop trying to make my football politically correct.

If a guy sucks, he's gonna get booed. It's not personal. I dont know Pat Julmiste from Adam. Bottom line is that if you play well, you wont get booed.

We have more than a full season of Pat Julmiste to base our opinions on. In his time as a starter, he threw more INTs than TDs, the USF Bulls had more losses than wins...AND in his GREAT BOWL SEASON, where he LED US TO A BOWL(one in which he was 8-25 91yds 1 INT and we were shut out 14-0 when A Hall ran for 118yds on 19 carries), the Bulls finished the year with a 6-6 record.

Very well said!

[Mission9]

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

Nobody said you didn't having the "right" to boo anything you want to. It's just that in the situation they're talking about here, you're a dickhead if you do ...

I hate to say it but maybe he is just a dickhead.

[Metro_Retro_Bull]

The boos were not T.O. boos, not that loud and not that long lasting. I knew PJ would hurry up and lead us to nowhere and I  knew that Grothe would hurry up and return (that's why you bring a radio to the game), so I had no need to boo, even though PJ is horrific.

[Mission9]

I agree, Everybody has to understand that Pat is part of the reason Matt is fitting in. He helped Matt more than you all know he is a stand up kid and I for one am glad he is a BULL.  .

I am not one to tell people how to act at a game. If you want to express displeasure, ok.  I do think though that the above quote should be remembered when or if you do choose to do so.  This guy has more insight that any of us.

[cptkid570]

Let’s summarize the 6 pages of this discussion:

1. Yes, everyone does have the right to boo.

2. It’s not very nice to boo a player if he is coming in for an injured player.

3. PJ is our backup qb, not a very good qb, but is the 2nd best qb on our team.  So, if Grothe gets hurt, PJ will most likely be the replacement during a close game.

4. If it is not a close game, and a qb is coming in to do mop up duty, then it may be a good idea to put the younger,#3 qb in because he could better use the experience to help us in the future.

[E.T.]

...

Bottom line: Without booing, we'd have a stadium full of E.T.

Constant CHEERING to the very end !

Go BULLS !!!

[Bullhonkey]

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

Nobody said you didn't having the "right" to boo anything you want to. It's just that in the situation they're talking about here, you're a dickhead if you do ...

I hate to say it but maybe he is just a dickhead.

:'(

[BULLheaded]

I'm sorry, but after reading about half of the posts here, I couldnt take it anymore....so now I'll say my part.

What does Pat Julmiste being "classy" or Pat Julmiste "trying his hardest" or Pat Julmiste "being a good guy" have ANYthing to do with a fan's right to boo?

I booed Pat Julmiste. I will continue to boo Pat Julmiste, as I did ALL of last year, everytime his name is mentioned or everytime he hits the field. The guy is the worst QB in the 110 year history of college football.

He may be our 2nd best option, which is debatable, seeing that he started the season ahead of the nation's top freshman QB....so really, what does THAT say about the talent evaluation going on at the QB position? Do we really wanna get into that?

Another point, and this is a VERY important one. Pat Julmiste signed up to play quarterback for a team that plays in front of 30,000+ people. Nowhere in the application for quarterback, does it say: "If you are a classy guy and you try your hardest, no one will boo you. If you cheer for your teammates and hold your clipboard in an upright and ready position, the fans automatically waive all rights to boo you and your performance."

Quarterback, and any position for that matter, is a performance based position. At QB, you either get ALL the praise (see: Blackwell, Grothe) or ALL the blame (see: Banks, Julmiste). Quarterbacks know this going in. These are grown men, folks. Not pee-wee football players. These men are old enough to fight for our country, they're not "kids".

From students to donors to walk up ticket buyers, every person in that stadium has a right to boo. It's what makes sports so great. People have favorite players and hated players, and like to debate about them. That's what makes the sports world go round!

Bottom line: Without booing, we'd have a stadium full of E.T.

absolutely untrue, without booing we'd have a stadium full af classy fans.

Maybe the next time a cop escorts one of your pals out of the stadium you can remember what a bit of common courtesy is like. Unreal, you get treated like **** and it's "poor me" but when you treat others like **** it's your "right"

Apparently you didnt read my post on page 4 of that thread. Do yourself a favor and go do that.

It's laughable that people are associating booing with "being classy". Everything in this world isnt flowers and lollipops, stop trying to make my football politically correct.

If a guy sucks, he's gonna get booed. It's not personal. I dont know Pat Julmiste from Adam. Bottom line is that if you play well, you wont get booed.

We have more than a full season of Pat Julmiste to base our opinions on. In his time as a starter, he threw more INTs than TDs, the USF Bulls had more losses than wins...AND in his GREAT BOWL SEASON, where he LED US TO A BOWL(one in which he was 8-25 91yds 1 INT and we were shut out 14-0 when A Hall ran for 118yds on 19 carries), the Bulls finished the year with a 6-6 record.

I read your quote and find it absurd. This isn't the pro's and these students aren't professionals playing for the money. These are students of USF playing for their school and as such they should be supported. If you have problems, ***** about it with your friends, ***** about it here, send letters or make calls to the coaches or administration, however booing a student athlete IS classless and if you can't see that then hey it's not my fault you can't see beyond a trailer trash mentality.