#DeionIsNotComing but…

[Bull Matrix]

Something tells me that D Sanders will eventually end up as FSU’s HC whenever Novell leaves. The question is will FSU still be in the ACC or SEC or Big Ten by the time that happens lol

[Triple B]

1 minute ago, MaltLiquorBull said:

I think it's fair that someone revived this thread at the end of the season.  It's not about being a hater.

Is there a thread we can revive about how much better Tom Herman would have been here instead of CAG?

[79 Bull]

3 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Is there a thread we can revive about how much better Tom Herman would have been here instead of CAG?

Haha, that ship has sailed.  CTH is not going bowling and came in 10th place in the AAC.  

[Sk00b]

8 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Something tells me that D Sanders will eventually end up as FSU’s HC whenever Novell leaves.

[Sk00b]

7 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Is there a thread we can revive about how much better Tom Herman would have been here instead of CAG?

Well. CAG did get outcoached head to head. Can't blame those ones on the players.

[TallyBull]

Because Deion has a strong personality and likes to project "swagger," people either love him or hate him. I'm not really a fan of his style, but I wouldn't have opposed him coaching at USF if it would have improved the program. But would it have? I think there are good arguments on both sides of that issue. We'll never know.

I like what I see in Golesh so far. If he picks up a couple of trophies, rebuilds USF into a long-term desirable destination for coaches and players, and makes us attractive to a P5 conference, he will have done his job. Not much more you can ask for at the G5 level.  

While it's true Deion's record is skewed by the fact he's playing USC, Washington, etc., and not Memphis, Tulane, and SMU, people are more interested in wins than post-hoc rationalizations about the quality of the team's opponents. It's all too squishy and most people don't have time for that. If Colorado goes 4-8 and USF goes 8-4, all most people will remember or care about is how Colorado is a losing program and USF is a winning program, not who they played. The rest is just details, fair or not.

Which is another reason why, setting aside money (which is impossible to do really, but suspend disbelief for a moment), I'd rather be a consistent winner at the G5 level than a consistent loser at the P5 level (although of course being a consistent winner at the P5 level is the ultimate goal). And that's an achievable goal for USF, regardless of conference affiliation.

Edited November 30, 2023 by TallyBull

[CousinRicky]

2 hours ago, 00Bull said:

Did I say that? 
 

Thought you said he'd be in line for a P5 gig if he came here first.

[Rocky Style]

27 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Is there a thread we can revive about how much better Tom Herman would have been here instead of CAG?

Haha he did absolutely destroy us, but I prefer Golesh.

[00Bull]

32 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Is there a thread we can revive about how much better Tom Herman would have been here instead of CAG?

Yeah, already happened in the FAU in-game thread back in October.

[00Bull]

12 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Thought you said he'd be in line for a P5 gig if he came here first.

Yes, any P5 job he might have wanted - after the hype of turning around historically bad USF. Not the P5 job that he accepted and has now, which he doesn’t seem all that committed to when he answers questions to the TX A&M opening with “I’m here”. “I’m here” sounds like I’m stuck rather than I want to be here.

Point of the post was that Deion was in a prime (no pun intended) position with USF to send his hype to the stratosphere and cash in a big way like Willie T. I’m not sure how good of a coach Deion is, but he could simply out talent almost every team on our schedule this year. His mistake.