puc86 Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 16, 2023 No matter what happens, can we all admit that Stanford proves once and for all that if you have no success in major sports but have all of the Olympic Sports success you still have no sports success? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 601 Content Count: 16,344 Reputation: 2,879 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, puc86 said: No matter what happens, can we all admit that Stanford proves once and for all that if you have no success in major sports but have all of the Olympic Sports success you still have no sports success? They use to be good at both football & hoops. Not sure why they got soft on sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said: They use to be good at both football & hoops. Not sure why they got soft on sports. No matter what when people responded to VPMK’s record with but we are #2 in overall sports in this #2 conference this is why people correctly told them that those other sports do not actually exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,570 Reputation: 10,841 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, puc86 said: No matter what happens, can we all admit that Stanford proves once and for all that if you have no success in major sports but have all of the Olympic Sports success you still have no sports success? 28 minutes ago, puc86 said: No matter what when people responded to VPMK’s record with but we are #2 in overall sports in this #2 conference this is why people correctly told them that those other sports do not actually exist. This is actually one of your longest reaches yet ...... which is saying a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Triple B said: This is actually one of your longest reaches yet ...... which is saying a lot. if the 26 time Learfield directors cup champion is left on the outside looking in, how big of a stretch do you honestly think it is to say no one actually values rowing, softball, T&F, water polo, golf and tennis at all? If anyone actually went to any of those things they would be able to tell by looking around that no one else cares, they just say they go because they know there is no way anyone can fact check them. Winning in things that only exist as they are required by law isn’t exactly a recipe for building any kind of relevance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,570 Reputation: 10,841 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, puc86 said: if the 26 time Learfield directors cup champion is left on the outside looking in, how big of a stretch do you honestly think it is to say no one actually values rowing, softball, T&F, water polo, golf and tennis at all? If anyone actually went to any of those things they would be able to tell by looking around that no one else cares, they just say they go because they know there is no way anyone can fact check them. Winning in things that only exist as they are required by law isn’t exactly a recipe for building any kind of relevance So no conference values Learfield Cups enough to use that as reason to bring in Stanford. There are a myriad of reasons why conference invites are sent out but apparently Olympic sports isn't one of them right now ..... but who cares? Doesn't mean you downplay if a school has decent ones ...... unless one's panties are in a wad over an AD and looking to squash any positives at all about the Department. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted August 16, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,471 Reputation: 1,225 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Triple B said: So no conference values Learfield Cups enough to use that as reason to bring in Stanford. There are a myriad of reasons why conference invites are sent out but apparently Olympic sports isn't one of them right now ..... but who cares? Doesn't mean you downplay if a school has decent ones ...... unless one's panties are in a wad over an AD and looking to squash any positives at all about the Department. Have to agree with Puc. Only sports that move the needle are Football and MBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted August 16, 2023 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 195 Content Count: 6,748 Reputation: 841 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, puc86 said: No matter what happens, can we all admit that Stanford proves once and for all that if you have no success in major sports but have all of the Olympic Sports success you still have no sports success? If we are defining success as based on revenue, yes. Why? Because football is king in the US of A. How-ev-ah, if you live out there where all that wheat grows, you're in the pipeline for wrestling, not only here, but for the international stage as well. I've run across a lot of guys whose take is "Oh yeah, football". Similar to Stanford in producing Olympic athletes. Context. And in the context of Stanford as a value-added component in realignment, I think you are correct that the absence of football success is a part of the equation. And let us not forget, a lot of those WTF sports exist BECAUSE OF FOOTBALL. Football produces sufficient revenue that we can have these other sports and of course retain our TITLE IX compliance (very important). Edited August 16, 2023 by WoolyBully additional text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjlovecub Posted August 16, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 127 Content Count: 2,118 Reputation: 522 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/27/2007 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, puc86 said: No matter what happens, can we all admit that Stanford proves once and for all that if you have no success in major sports but have all of the Olympic Sports success you still have no sports success? No. That’s ridiculous. Stanford has a highly successful sports program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted August 16, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,471 Reputation: 1,225 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted August 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, jjlovecub said: No. That’s ridiculous. Stanford has a highly successful sports program. And yet they are left behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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