theman123 Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 411 Content Count: 5,591 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: This is the coach USF needs. Kelly wasn't fast enough for you, but he did this one RIGHT. I'm with you. I'm spending too much time today learning about AAR, but I'm really liking this hire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,045 Reputation: 1,032 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, John Lewis said: No one said it has to be slow. He is inheriting a much better situation here that what he did at Kennesaw St. I am choosing to look at his entire body of work and not just years 1 and 2. He took over a bad situation and improved every season. Listen I hope it works out. Still when looking at his entire body of work he had 3 bad seasons and then one good season. If you compare this hire to Heath and even Gregory resume wise this is a downgrade and you start wondering whether Kelly is able to hire the people he desires. This feels like Kelly whiffed on his first 15 choices and then settled on this one. If there is no improvement next year I am afraid apathy will set in for me as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted March 29, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, belgianbull said: Listen I hope it works out. Still when looking at his entire body of work he had 3 bad seasons and then one good season. If you compare this hire to Heath and even Gregory resume wise this is a downgrade and you start wondering whether Kelly is able to hire the people he desires. This feels like Kelly whiffed on his first 15 choices and then settled on this one. If there is no improvement next year I am afraid apathy will set in for me as well You're expecting a new coach (ANY new coach) to improve on 14-18 when the two best players graduated? He didn't have "3 bad seasons" ... it took four seasons to rebuild a team that had not had a single winning season since it moved from Division II to Division 1.... He had more wins every year... that should be a positive. Plus, Kelly hired someone with actual HEAD coaching experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,045 Reputation: 1,032 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Jim Johnson said: You're expecting a new coach (ANY new coach) to improve on 14-18 when the two best players graduated? He didn't have "3 bad seasons" ... it took four seasons to rebuild a team that had not had a single winning season since it moved from Division II to Division 1.... He had more wins every year... that should be a positive. Plus, Kelly hired someone with actual HEAD coaching experience. Yes. If we had hired Odom, Brey,... I would totally expect 15 wins next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psteazy Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 571 Reputation: 81 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/14/2008 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Here's to Amir... Just hoping I get to see this program proudly hoist another CBI championship banner into rafters at some point in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted March 29, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, belgianbull said: Yes. If we had hired Odom, Brey,... I would totally expect 15 wins next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79 Bull Posted March 29, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 687 Content Count: 7,660 Reputation: 1,220 Days Won: 6 Joined: 07/10/2003 Share Posted March 29, 2023 KSU does play football and will be in CUSA for 24-25 season. Probably in the AAC for 25-26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL_08 Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 48 Content Count: 2,347 Reputation: 661 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2009 Share Posted March 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: You're expecting a new coach (ANY new coach) to improve on 14-18 when the two best players graduated? He didn't have "3 bad seasons" ... it took four seasons to rebuild a team that had not had a single winning season since it moved from Division II to Division 1.... He had more wins every year... that should be a positive. Plus, Kelly hired someone with actual HEAD coaching experience. I thought the idea when firing a coach is that the new hire will improve the team, but USF lives in their own world. Hope he works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,045 Reputation: 1,032 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Jim Johnson said: All it takes with the transfer portal is to get one or two good players to come to USF and you can be competitive right away. Maybe he can bring a few of his best players to come from Kennesaw. We needed a home run hire ( or as close to one as you can ever get), and this is anything but that. I take back about apathy kicking in since knowing me I will tune in when the season starts again and root for that we finally have made the right hire. Same goes for football I will hope for the best. Very disappointed in Kelly though since the last 3 weeks have been anything but reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted March 29, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,374 Reputation: 945 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted March 29, 2023 44 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: This is the coach USF needs. Kelly wasn't fast enough for you, but he did this one RIGHT. Whatever. 19 days to decide we wanted to hire a one-hit wonder from Kennesaw State. Again, he may end up being a great hire, but to say "Kelly did this right" is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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