Deion Sanders

[Orlando Bull]

11 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

No I appreciate what he did here. Unfortunately time has passed him by. It happens to all of us.

If I told you(without knowing his name) we were hiring FAU's former DC that is currently unemployed people on here would go ballistic.

Now do "Former NFL assistant, Oregon DC, has Power Conference HC experience and a winning record, and is available" without a name... that sounds pretty OK to me.

Quite honestly, without a name, it's not much worse than FCS HC experience, great record, only 3 years in coaching... again, without a name, this resume doesn't look too much better than the first I laid out.

Add to it that you're going to be the second guy double what you'd have to pay the first guy.

[Bull94]

Just now, Brad said:

You can view it that way.  99% of assistant coaches (ride the coattails) of an existing head coach.  CJL had two places he desired to HC - USF and KSU.  Making assumptions about everything else is nothing more than that.  

I'm not assuming anything. Again I appreciate what he did here. We need a coach who is on the rise of his career.

If you look at his recent jobs objectively then you wouldn't say he is a coach on the rise.

It sucks he's gotten old( happens to the best of us) but time has passed him by.

I said we should hire him as a football ambassador. Someone who can reach out to the local high school coaches. Build relationships that last beyond any coach we hire.

[Rocky Style]

4 minutes ago, USFBULL_08 said:

where have you seen his list of demands?

It's all gossip, but it seems like we met the money demand, but he wants "full control" which seems vague.  I don't know if that means we are called the USF Fighting Deions or where that control ends.

[Orlando Bull]

8 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

It wasn't random. it's been happening. He saw a steady decline in the jobs he was offered.

honestly he rode Taggart's coat tails from Oregon to FSU and then to FAU

He had a good career. He is 66. It's time to retire.

You do know he was SMU's DC last year right? That was his most recent job, not with Tags. The guy is well respected as a defensive coach.

[Rocky Style]

1 minute ago, Bull94 said:

We need a coach who is on the rise of his career.

We have to also watch out for the Peter Principle:
which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence

[Bull94]

4 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said:

Now do "Former NFL assistant, Oregon DC, has Power Conference HC experience and a winning record, and is available" without a name... that sounds pretty OK to me.

Quite honestly, without a name, it's not much worse than FCS HC experience, great record, only 3 years in coaching... again, without a name, this resume doesn't look too much better than the first I laid out.

Add to it that you're going to be the second guy double what you'd have to pay the first guy.

Tell me is Leavitt a coach on the upward trajectory of his career?

Charlie strong has a far more impressive resume. Doesn't mean I want him back.

Generally old coaches have better resumes than young coaches.

[bullsmeanbusiness]

 

[Bull94]

4 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said:

You do know he was SMU's DC last year right? That was his most recent job, not with Tags. The guy is well respected as a defensive coach.

Oh sorry.forgot that one. Was it this year? didn't realize SMU played defense.

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Bull94

[Bull94]

3 minutes ago, Rocky Style said:

We have to also watch out for the Peter Principle:
which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence

what's the alternative? Hiring someone that is on the decline? Or bottomed out?

[Rocky Style]

3 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

Tell me is Leavitt a coach on the upward trajectory of his career?

This is a fallacy though.  We need to win games and get back on track, whether "they" continue to go upward.