As bad as it is right now...

[BayIslandBull]

...to me it comes down to recruiting. If Jeff Scott can pull in a top 50 class, then he give him another year. Our 2014 class which contained Q, was ranked in the mid 40's & let to our best team ever in 2017, arguably (even with Strong squandering it).

He has to let Shoop go though. Former NFL coordinators do not translate well to college.  For him to constantly complain about missed assignments while not simplifying the defense shows it. He had had a year & the players are consistently out of position. Let Ernie Sims call the plays, or bring in an up and comer with some fire. 

 

Now,  I'm ready for the firing squad...

[Rocky Style]

15 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

...to me it comes down to recruiting. If Jeff Scott can pull in a top 50 class, then he give him another year. Our 2014 class which contained Q, was ranked in the mid 40's & let to our best team ever in 2017, arguably (even with Strong squandering it).

He has to let Shoop go though.

This is the dilemma, if we know the defense is basically a non factor, is it throwing more bodies at the situation and switching DC?  If so you wouldn't need a new HC to do that.  But how does one know?

[Friscobull]

12 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

...to me it comes down to recruiting. If Jeff Scott can pull in a top 50 class, then he give him another year. Our 2014 class which contained Q, was ranked in the mid 40's & let to our best team ever in 2017, arguably (even with Strong squandering it).

He has to let Shoop go though. Former NFL coordinators do not translate well to college.  For him to constantly complain about missed assignments while not simplifying the defense shows it. He had had a year & the players are consistently out of position. Let Ernie Sims call the plays, or bring in an up and comer with some fire. 

 

Now,  I'm ready for the firing squad...

I agree it has always come down to recruiting however CWT landed that class in his first complete recruiting cycle while he was full of piss and vigor selling a vision.  This would be CJS’s third complete cycle showing one win in FBS and essentially be a dead man walking, his recruiting like his coaching stinks and that is the reason we are where we are.

[emrober5]

1 FBS win in three seasons. USF can't wait any longer. Honestly he should have been fired before the bye week.

We are in a position in which 99% of schools would fire the coach. We can't pin the programs future on Scott being able to recruit as a lame duck.

[BayIslandBull]

But would firing him just push us back 3 more years? We don't have endless millions to pay coaches to not coach. The contract extension was unforgivable.  We did the same thing to Skip...

[emrober5]

9 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

But would firing him just push us back 3 more years? We don't have endless millions to pay coaches to not coach. The contract extension was unforgivable.  We did the same thing to Skip...

Push us back to what? We are at rock bottom here (though no doubt we will find a way to dig deeper against SMU and UCF). You're prolonging the inevitable by keeping him around, and pissing off the diehards that are honestly the only fans left because USF is not even an afterthought in college football.

As to your example, when we fixed the Holtz mistake we got CWT, which worked out pretty good for us.

[thekidnapper]

What happens to his contract if we lose the next two games then upset UCF as a Top 25 team? Another extension? 

[Sk00b]

2 minutes ago, thekidnapper said:

What happens to his contract if we lose the next two games then upset UCF as a Top 25 team? Another extension? 

You're dreamin bud.

[thekidnapper]

14 minutes ago, Sk00b said:

You're dreamin bud.

The scenario I mentioned was a nightmare  

[lotsofbull99]

Let's give Scott one more year, who ever is hired to replace him won't be turning it around in one year or several years anyway.