olafberserker Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,354 Reputation: 942 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Triple B said: SMU - Started football in 1915; has 11 conference; more donor $$$ SDSU - Started football in 21; has 21 conference titles; more donor $$$ Whine about "thanking" USF when a program with a lesser resume "jumps" us .... This sounds a lot like excuses. We've gone backwards since CJL was fired Edited February 8, 2023 by olafberserker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbuster Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 730 Reputation: 438 Days Won: 4 Joined: 09/07/2010 Share Posted February 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Triple B said: SMU - Started football in 1915; has 11 conference; more donor $$$ SDSU - Started football in 21; has 21 conference titles; more donor $$$ Whine about "thanking" USF when a program with a lesser resume "jumps" us .... BCS Level/P5 have been/are the measuring stick. We had that level, lost it and others are taking it. That equals getting passed up. Stating they have more donor $ just explains part of WHY they got a call up to the big leagues; it doesn't change the fact they are getting the promotion over USF who got sent to AAA(C). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,033 Reputation: 1,023 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted February 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, olafberserker said: This sounds a lot like excuses. We've gone backwards since CJL was fired And even more in 2009 we were ahead of UCF, SMU, Houston, San Diego State since we were in a major conference. If its true that SMU is leaving that would leave the AAC even more watered down. While winning needs to come first, Kelly's number one priority has to be getting us out of the AAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,416 Reputation: 2,907 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: I am not sure there are any teams left in other g5 conferences that fans would be excited to see and play. Hell is debatable are fans excited to play most of the teams in the aac that have been beating on usf for years now under our current Ad mk. I am not sure he is putting us in a better spot for realignment to any p5 conference. Let's hope Golesh finds his MOJO and just gotta win to move up. So you are saying fans were excited to see USF play against SMU, Cincy, Houston, Rutgers, Syracuse, PItt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,416 Reputation: 2,907 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghostbuster said: BCS Level/P5 have been/are the measuring stick. We had that level, lost it and others are taking it. That equals getting passed up. Stating they have more donor $ just explains part of WHY they got a call up to the big leagues; it doesn't change the fact they are getting the promotion over USF who got sent to AAA(C). Like I will continue to say. We are at the point now that P5 doesn’t matter as much. What matters is being in one of the top 6 conferences each season moving forward starting in 2024 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,033 Reputation: 1,023 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said: So you are saying fans were excited to see USF play against SMU, Cincy, Houston, Rutgers, Syracuse, PItt? Absolutely, especially compared to Rice, North Texas, FAU, Charlotte. The numbers don't lie when you compare attendance from Taggert and Strong's days in the (AAC), compared to when we were in the Big East. Numbers are likely to go down even more even if we win because the best teams have left the conference Edited February 8, 2023 by belgianbull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,354 Reputation: 942 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said: So you are saying fans were excited to see USF play against SMU, Cincy, Houston, Rutgers, Syracuse, PItt? I can't even tell if you are serious anymore, but yes those are all higher caliber programs than what is left .... and they have all (SMU allegedly being) been called to the "show" Edited February 8, 2023 by olafberserker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,354 Reputation: 942 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted February 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bull Awakening said: Like I will continue to say. We are at the point now that P5 doesn’t matter as much. What matters is being in one of the top 6 conferences each season moving forward starting in 2024 season I'm not sure how you can equate having the opportunity to be the tallest midget each season as the same as actually being in the big leagues. It's a nice copy of the home game at best 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostbuster Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 730 Reputation: 438 Days Won: 4 Joined: 09/07/2010 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bull Awakening said: Like I will continue to say. We are at the point now that P5 doesn’t matter as much. What matters is being in one of the top 6 conferences each season moving forward starting in 2024 season UCF Cincy and Houston stand to have roughly 30 million more reasons for thinking the P5 does matter. I'm astounded this is still an argument somehow....if you don't think the money disparity will create a huge gap leaving us in the dust then you're simply ignoring reality. Everything costs more today than at any point in the past. And any previous success USF had while in trailers or with previous coaches is irrelevant when college football has changed DRAMATICALLY since 1997. USF isn't going to attract/retain quality players when we play in front of 5000 fans against Rice or whoever else is in this conference now. And how many commits will be jazzed about playing for the streaming ESPN 3 masses when you can go to Orlando, Gainesville or Tally and play on national television and get exposure. Hey want to get drafted? Good luck showing the NFL your tape against UAB when others are playing against ranked teams. God the list goes on and on...."P5 doesn't matter" is about the most unrealistic take right now. It's never mattered more. And in a few years when the P5 decide to stop letting G5 into the playoffs, because their good players get injured during blowouts against G5 (or they simply want to keep more money), you won't even have the illusion of the playoffs as a G5. Edited February 8, 2023 by Ghostbuster 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted February 8, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted February 8, 2023 my dear fellow bulls fans it will be getting worse for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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