Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[USFBulls12]

4 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said:

Yes, according to his twitter. 

That's too bad, poor guy

[ForestBull]

2 hours ago, USFBulls12 said:

Why’s that, is he dying?

Yeah he's in hospice apparently. 

[CousinRicky]

4 minutes ago, ForestBull said:

Yeah he's in hospice apparently. 

My mom was pretty delusional by time she got to hospice. So if he is in hospice I feel badly for the guy. But doesn't mean I'm believing anything he posts.

[Rocky Style]

7 hours ago, ForestBull said:

Yeah he's in hospice apparently. 

Wow this took a real turn.  

[GoBulls84]

13 hours ago, Bull Matrix said:

No he is not. If anything, ACC will cherry pick from big 12 if they lose all those teams. So he better be careful what he wishes for 

Will they though? The Big 12 would have the same thing in this situation that it had when the Pac started falling apart ... stability. They know what they have in their TV deal and know they just have to stick together to outlast the ACC. It's the same thing that happened with the Pac-12 after USC and UCLA left. The Pac was suddenly unstable without a TV deal and the Big 12 was already locked in with a bunch of teams nobody else was plucking anymore. The Pac got increasingly unstable as the months passed and eventually the "stable" Big 12 plucked their teams.

The ACC will likely be backfilling with G5 teams unless ESPN or whoever else comes back to them to say they'll boost their TV deal X amount of dollars by adding power conference teams (which isn't likely to happen). 

[Mike Stuben]

10 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

Will they though? The Big 12 would have the same thing in this situation that it had when the Pac started falling apart ... stability. They know what they have in their TV deal and know they just have to stick together to outlast the ACC. It's the same thing that happened with the Pac-12 after USC and UCLA left. The Pac was suddenly unstable without a TV deal and the Big 12 was already locked in with a bunch of teams nobody else was plucking anymore. The Pac got increasingly unstable as the months passed and eventually the "stable" Big 12 plucked their teams.

The ACC will likely be backfilling with G5 teams unless ESPN or whoever else comes back to them to say they'll boost their TV deal X amount of dollars by adding power conference teams (which isn't likely to happen). 

Here is where it gets scary. ACC just added 3 teams. If they lose 4 teams, what if they decide to just add 1. 

If they add 1, who are the contenders: USF, UConn, Tulane, West Coast team. 

UConn offers big time basketball and fits into their traditional footprint. 

USF offers football potential and fits into their traditional footprint. 

Tulane give SMU some company and bridges that geographic divide. 

West Coast bolsters their presense as a nationwide conference. (I didn't break down the options, but the PAC 2 schools or San Diego State are most likely)

[GoBulls84]

39 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said:

Here is where it gets scary. ACC just added 3 teams. If they lose 4 teams, what if they decide to just add 1. 

If they add 1, who are the contenders: USF, UConn, Tulane, West Coast team. 

UConn offers big time basketball and fits into their traditional footprint. 

USF offers football potential and fits into their traditional footprint. 

Tulane give SMU some company and bridges that geographic divide. 

West Coast bolsters their presense as a nationwide conference. (I didn't break down the options, but the PAC 2 schools or San Diego State are most likely)

They're at 17 now with the new additions. Let's say they lose 4, they're back down to 13. I think they add 3 to get to an even 16 (yes, B1G and SEC are up to 18+, but I can't see ACC adding 5 schools). My hope is the Pac-2 just absorbs the MW in some fashion and the ACC ends up adding us, Tulane (close enough to the current footprint, fits the academic prestige of the conference, strong football recently) and UConn (for the obvious basketball reasons), leaving the conference looking like this:
 

• Louisville
• NC State
• Georgia Tech
• Virginia Tech
• Duke
• Boston College
• Miami
• Syracuse
• Pitt
• Wake
• Cal
• Stanford
• SMU
• USF
• Tulane
• UConn

That's still a pretty strong basketball conference despite losing UNC and UVA. Football is still strong-ish with plenty of programs with potential with the P4 resources. Not sure what kind of TV deal that pulls, but certainly better than our current deal (obviously).

[Mike Stuben]

16 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

They're at 17 now with the new additions. Let's say they lose 4, they're back down to 13. I think they add 3 to get to an even 16 (yes, B1G and SEC are up to 18+, but I can't see ACC adding 5 schools). My hope is the Pac-2 just absorbs the MW in some fashion and the ACC ends up adding us, Tulane (close enough to the current footprint, fits the academic prestige of the conference, strong football recently) and UConn (for the obvious basketball reasons), leaving the conference looking like this:
 

• Louisville
• NC State
• Georgia Tech
• Virginia Tech
• Duke
• Boston College
• Miami
• Syracuse
• Pitt
• Wake
• Cal
• Stanford
• SMU
• USF
• Tulane
• UConn

That's still a pretty strong basketball conference despite losing UNC and UVA. Football is still strong-ish with plenty of programs with potential with the P4 resources. Not sure what kind of TV deal that pulls, but certainly better than our current deal (obviously).

There is one more scary thought. Does NC politicians pressure ACC to take ECU. 

[Rocky Style]

20 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

They're at 17 now with the new additions. Let's say they lose 4, they're back down to 13. I think they add 3 to get to an even 16 (yes, B1G and SEC are up to 18+, but I can't see ACC adding 5 schools). My hope is the Pac-2 just absorbs the MW in some fashion and the ACC ends up adding us, Tulane (close enough to the current footprint, fits the academic prestige of the conference, strong football recently) and UConn (for the obvious basketball reasons), leaving the conference looking like this:
 

• Louisville
• NC State
• Georgia Tech
• Virginia Tech
• Duke
• Boston College
• Miami
• Syracuse
• Pitt
• Wake
• Cal
• Stanford
• SMU
• USF
• Tulane
• UConn

That's still a pretty strong basketball conference despite losing UNC and UVA. Football is still strong-ish with plenty of programs with potential with the P4 resources. Not sure what kind of TV deal that pulls, but certainly better than our current deal (obviously).

We should at least be in that tier if there is any justice in the world.

[GoBulls84]

7 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said:

There is one more scary thought. Does NC politicians pressure ACC to take ECU. 

They may try. Not sure if it will stick. ECU would still be in a stable home with a decent media payout in the AAC. Not sure how much they could sway them given the academics (as new adds, SMU was the lowest but still #89 in US News and World Report's rankings). ECU is way down in a tie at #195, which I guess is where Louisville is, but I feel like Louisville was a desperation add when they're Athletics were all-around very strong. ECU has a great baseball program, but what else?