Bull94 Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Peatearpan said: A full stadium atmosphere and the annual chance to upset UF? Sign me up except the stadium wouldn't be full..... nary a sellout this year. not even for #1 Georgia. barely 70% full(28,500). just another 2-10 (0-8) season for them. nothing out of the ordinary. Home attendance wrap: Vanderbilt ranks last in SEC WWW.SATURDAYDOWNSOUTH.COM Here's an recap of Vanderbilt's home attendance in 2014. 2023 Vanderbilt Commodores football team - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Edited December 6, 2023 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I do not like any of the teams involved and certainly have no love to lose for the miscreants that are known as FSU. I hope you all going back and forth about who belongs and who doesn't in the faux playoffs realize the pure folly of a sport where you can never be defeated but still cannot become a champion. Even if you have a decent schedule and win all of your games you still have to be scored and chosen to compete. Football is not ice skating or gymnastics and should not be left to subjective choices. Instead of trying to protect the bogus bowls, the powers that be should have installed a legitimate playoff years ago. There is a reason why the NFL is KING. Now, if I had said in August I bet that FSU would go undefeated and that includes wins over (name brands) LSU, Florida, Miami etc. and told you they would not be invited to the playoffs, all of you would have lined up thinking you were going to take easy money from me. Finally, one of the catch phrases I had heard often over the years when I made the mistake of turning on ESECPN is "body of work". Well, I believe the Bama game I saw up close and personal, I saw Bama's offensive line getting beat often against (pains me to say) one of the worst defenses in college football the last few seasons. I reject the premise of "body of work" just on that alone. If Alabama was so superior to FSU, they would have manhandled, yes manhandled the USF defensive line. They did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted December 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mission9 said: Now, if I had said in August I bet that FSU would go undefeated and that includes wins over (name brands) LSU, Florida, Miami etc. and told you they would not be invited to the playoffs, all of you would have lined up thinking you were going to take easy money from me. But if you added their QB was not functional and/or half the team got caught up in an FBI shoes sting, we'd have even more confidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted December 6, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted December 6, 2023 14 hours ago, BDYZR said: Define athlete. Football, men’s and women’s basketball, baseball, softball, tennis, men’s and women’s lacrosse, etc. Or would they try that with only football and basketball? Title IX my friend. Any student competing on any team on scholarship (or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Brad said: But if you added their QB was not functional and/or half the team got caught up in an FBI shoes sting, we'd have even more confidence... I think you may have missed my point. The argument is not who belongs or doesn't. The issue is it is a bogus playoff format. Somewhere Steve Spurrier is smiling on the shoes point. Edited December 6, 2023 by Mission9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted December 6, 2023 And as the one attorney is trying to do, count club teams as Title IX student-athletes. Like most legislation, Title IX has been abused and will continue to be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted December 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mission9 said: I think you may have missed my point. Sorry. I probably did. I've seen enough sympathy for FSU on this board. I'd like the playoffs to start after about three games. Run a huge double elim/round robin, use the 9 weeks or so to determine a real champion. Other problems emerge i.e. team's early eliminated..etc. Conferences won't matter (I vote for that!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted December 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Brad said: Sorry. I probably did. I've seen enough sympathy for FSU on this board. I'd like the playoffs to start after about three games. Run a huge double elim/round robin, use the 9 weeks or so to determine a real champion. Other problems emerge i.e. team's early eliminated..etc. Conferences won't matter (I vote for that!). Do not confuse pointing out the illegitimate playoff format as well as ESECPN hypocrisy as sympathy. I laughed at the idea they were left out from a fan standpoint. I loathe the fact that it happened to an undefeated team who did have to overcome a few bad breaks along the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted December 6, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bull94 said: except the stadium wouldn't be full..... nary a sellout this year. not even for #1 Georgia. barely 70% full(28,500). just another 2-10 (0-8) season for them. nothing out of the ordinary. To be fair, Vanderbilt's entire enrollment is smaller than the USF student section at RayJay. Edited December 6, 2023 by Jim Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted December 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted December 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Brad said: Sorry. I probably did. I've seen enough sympathy for FSU on this board. I'd like the playoffs to start after about three games. Run a huge double elim/round robin, use the 9 weeks or so to determine a real champion. Other problems emerge i.e. team's early eliminated..etc. Conferences won't matter (I vote for that!). The is much bigger than the semenholes. No one likes them, but we understand the door this opens. If you can leave them out this season perhaps that allows you to leave others out in future. There could be multiple G5 teams that have good records, 0-1 losses, but now the committee can justify putting 2-3 loss teams ahead of them. Especially if they played Bama, Georgia, and so on. Doing this now means it will be less controversial when they rinse and repeat later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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