Outlaw Posted August 9, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,641 Reputation: 3,329 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, michibull said: Honestly, we can’t work for free, BUT, playing in the ACC would improve our business more than staying in the AAC. If we can make what we make now, but play ACC teams, we would get back to BE attendance and TV ratings which would only increase our revenue; which is what SMU is probably thinking. Is that the paac? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyBull Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,686 Reputation: 1,188 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/19/2011 Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, 350_BULL said: https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1689269888563523585 - Cal, Stanford taking a 60-70% share - SMU open to forgoing 5+ years of distribution Not sure if this was already discussed but here comes the next phase of realignment. The bidding wars. SMU proposal especially, this is crazy. We can't compete with that. So now we may have to compete with others willing to practically work for free just to join a power conference. We're in trouble. You know what I never see in these reports? Any explanation as to how any of these new proposed schools/financials will placate the ACC schools that want to leave. Because they won't. And that's the primary issue! Remember, it takes a significant percentage of the membership to vote for expansion (I don't know precisely what that is, but I suspect it's 3/4 of the membership). When someone reports that there are enough votes in the ACC to expand to include the PAC-2 and SMU, I'll be concerned. I suspect FSU, Clemson, and UM (at least) will not vote for such a proposal. And if they don't but the rest of the conference overrides them, it simply makes their push to get out of the conference that more critical - how can they stay in a conference where their opinions are essentially ignored? This ACC thing is a fight over money. Until someone shows me that adding the PAC-2 and SMU will solve the ACC's money issue and satisfy FSU, Clemson, and UM (and perhaps others), I'll remain skeptical about all of this. Could just be an ESPN/ACC smokescreen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M50_BULL Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 21 Content Count: 694 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/20/2012 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, michibull said: Honestly, we can’t work for free, BUT, playing in the ACC would improve our business more than staying in the AAC. If we can make what we make now, but play ACC teams, we would get back to BE attendance and TV ratings which would only increase our revenue; which is what SMU is probably thinking. Very valid point. I also read more into it since I posted, when you consider that we make 7M from our AAC contract shoot we aren't that far from peanuts as it is. So yes you are spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted August 9, 2023 This has to be a new low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 960 Reputation: 652 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bull Nut said: This has to be a new low... I feel like it’s when I interviewed for my first job out of school “just give me a chance to prove what I can do!” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,503 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, michibull said: I feel like it’s when I interviewed for my first job out of school “just give me a chance to prove what I can do!” Yeah. DJ’s hate it when other DJ’s work for free as it ends up messing up their true market values. AAC should probably just kick out SMU if the rumors or true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, michibull said: I feel like it’s when I interviewed for my first job out of school “just give me a chance to prove what I can do!” I've always been a fan of commission-only compensation. It creates hunger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,503 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 9, 2023 There still is hope… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Nut Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,327 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2018 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said: There still is hope… You're aware people can make unsubstantiated claims on Twitter, right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted August 9, 2023 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,785 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Cat941 said: The ACC seems like a carrot being dangled in front of us. Perhaps...but you have to consider who is doing the 'dangling'. Is it anyone in a position of executive decision making, authority, documents signing m**** f***** or is it the nebulous twittersphere (was I s'posed to say Xosphere?) and multiple instances of "I know a guy, who knows, a guy, who heard", or just wishful thinking? We've had basketball for half a century and made The Tournament thrice, making it past the first round but once. Waiting is what we do best. I think we're going to be waiting for a considerable time to come before we look attractive to THEM. Face it, at this point in time there are quality, established programs that are standing on shaky ground, so getting miracled into the P5 (perhaps I should start saying A4...assuming it doesn't drop to A3) is not an agenda item. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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