Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Peatearpan]

2 hours ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

Great points Cubanbull. I'll add to this that the difference between a USF team that has struggled recently vs a Colorado team that's struggled recently is the big picture strategy in being able to damage a fellow P5 conference contending for the #3 spot.

Colorado gets the state of Colorado television sets. Arizona/ASU get Arizona. Utah/BYU pull in all of Utah.

UCF has to compete with the Big 3 for eyes, and USF would have to compete with all four.

[M50_BULL]

4 hours ago, Cat941 said:

Yes.  We've stunk lately.  Both in BB and FB.  But we had years of success.  Haven't we? 

Yes you are correct to our dear bulls fans community. But even now looking back I would have to question our success. What really is success? I was there when soft White was picked six by Ben Moffitt in a packed Ray Jay, there when Maikon Bonani kicked a game winner vs Kansas, and there when Daniels started vs FSwho to upset those cocky holes. At that time I would've passionately said that this program is top notch world beater that can take anyone any place and looking back at it it's all fan green and gold goggles.

The truth is we have no hardware to truly cement our "success" in the history books, yes some small bowl wins and a runner up at the brut sunbowl award (I mention this one bc it still hurts me much to this day as this was one of our biggest failures in the national stage as two former No. 2 teams going head to head only for us to get demolished). But really we never really put that big time bow at the end of a season to claim our success to cash in. We just haven't. I'll say this once as it pains me, the boys from the east did and they did it just about every big stage chance they had in the spot light. Gross.

And MBB basketball, let's not go there, other than Stan Heath's breath smelling march madness, it has been a while since there has been continued success. WBB is the sport I will say that the proof is in the pudding, I hope we never lose Jose Fernandez he is a great coach. But sad to say that WBB is not going to be enough to carry us to the ACC/B12.

[WoolyBully]

18 minutes ago, 350_BULL said:

Yes you are correct to our dear bulls fans community. But even now looking back I would have to question our success. What really is success? I was there when soft White was picked six by Ben Moffitt in a packed Ray Jay, there when Maikon Bonani kicked a game winner vs Kansas, and there when Daniels started vs FSwho to upset those cocky holes. At that time I would've passionately said that this program is top notch world beater that can take anyone any place and looking back at it it's all fan green and gold goggles.

The truth is we have no hardware to truly cement our "success" in the history books, yes some small bowl wins and a runner up at the brut sunbowl award (I mention this one bc it still hurts me much to this day as this was one of our biggest failures in the national stage as two former No. 2 teams going head to head only for us to get demolished). But really we never really put that big time bow at the end of a season to claim our success to cash in. We just haven't. I'll say this once as it pains me, the boys from the east did and they did it just about every big stage chance they had in the spot light. Gross.

And MBB basketball, let's not go there, other than Stan Heath's breath smelling march madness, it has been a while since there has been continued success. WBB is the sport I will say that the proof is in the pudding, I hope we never lose Jose Fernandez he is a great coach. But sad to say that WBB is not going to be enough to carry us to the ACC/B12.

Yeah. I'd say that is a very fair assessment. As such, the only thing left to do is look forward. Think back to the P5 upsets. Upsets. Can you really live off of that? One of the problems we have here is there is no clear line of demarcation between statement of facts and what constitutes - to some people - negativity. At the same time, there are those who have green and gold goggles surgically attached to their face. Our success is measured by what we can say we accomplished. It doesn't mean that our success is on par with other teams' measurement of success. Remember, come this fall, winning two games constitutes a 100% increase in winning over last year. Two games. I think that would be more along the lines of marginal improvement, but here at USF, we live in a take-what-we-can-get world. 

[Gat-Rat Bull]

39 minutes ago, 350_BULL said:

Yes you are correct to our dear bulls fans community. But even now looking back I would have to question our success. What really is success? I was there when soft White was picked six by Ben Moffitt in a packed Ray Jay, there when Maikon Bonani kicked a game winner vs Kansas, and there when Daniels started vs FSwho to upset those cocky holes. At that time I would've passionately said that this program is top notch world beater that can take anyone any place and looking back at it it's all fan green and gold goggles.

The truth is we have no hardware to truly cement our "success" in the history books, yes some small bowl wins and a runner up at the brut sunbowl award (I mention this one bc it still hurts me much to this day as this was one of our biggest failures in the national stage as two former No. 2 teams going head to head only for us to get demolished). But really we never really put that big time bow at the end of a season to claim our success to cash in. We just haven't. I'll say this once as it pains me, the boys from the east did and they did it just about every big stage chance they had in the spot light. Gross.

And MBB basketball, let's not go there, other than Stan Heath's breath smelling march madness, it has been a while since there has been continued success. WBB is the sport I will say that the proof is in the pudding, I hope we never lose Jose Fernandez he is a great coach. But sad to say that WBB is not going to be enough to carry us to the ACC/B12.

It's natural to have mixed feelings about the past and the performance of our beloved Bulls.

[Cat941]

38 minutes ago, 350_BULL said:

Yre to truly cement our "success" in the history books, yes some small bowl wins and a runner up at the brut sunbowl award (I mention this one bc it still hurts me much to this day as this was one of our biggest failures in the national stage as two former No. 2 teams going head to head only for us to get demolished). But really we never really put that big time bow at the end of a season to claim our success to cash in. We just haven't. I'll say this once as it pains me, the boys from the east did and they did it just about every big stage chance they had in the spot light. 

 

Concur.  We let Houston go 4 and 24 on the way to flushing our chance for a conference ship down the tubes.  That one I can't let go.  

[Bull Matrix]

46 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

Concur.  We let Houston go 4 and 24 on the way to flushing our chance for a conference ship down the tubes.  That one I can't let go.  

To this day, I rank giving up that play on 4th & 24 as one of the worse defensive plays ever in USF history.

[Peatearpan]

3 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

To this day, I rank giving up that play on 4th & 24 as one of the worse defensive plays ever in USF history.

#benddon’tbreakbaby!

[Triple B]

58 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

Concur.  We let Houston go 4 and 24 on the way to flushing our chance for a conference ship down the tubes.  That one I can't let go.  

That had no effect on our chance at a conference championship. Even if we had won, we still had to beat the Klowns to get to the ccg.

[Cat941]

1 minute ago, Triple B said:

That had no effect on our chance at a conference championship. Even if we had won, we still had to beat the Klowns to get to the ccg.

I remember.  ARGH!

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, 350_BULL said:

Yes you are correct to our dear bulls fans community. But even now looking back I would have to question our success. What really is success? I was there when soft White was picked six by Ben Moffitt in a packed Ray Jay, there when Maikon Bonani kicked a game winner vs Kansas, and there when Daniels started vs FSwho to upset those cocky holes. At that time I would've passionately said that this program is top notch world beater that can take anyone any place and looking back at it it's all fan green and gold goggles.

The truth is we have no hardware to truly cement our "success" in the history books, yes some small bowl wins and a runner up at the brut sunbowl award (I mention this one bc it still hurts me much to this day as this was one of our biggest failures in the national stage as two former No. 2 teams going head to head only for us to get demolished). But really we never really put that big time bow at the end of a season to claim our success to cash in. We just haven't. I'll say this once as it pains me, the boys from the east did and they did it just about every big stage chance they had in the spot light. Gross.

And MBB basketball, let's not go there, other than Stan Heath's breath smelling march madness, it has been a while since there has been continued success. WBB is the sport I will say that the proof is in the pudding, I hope we never lose Jose Fernandez he is a great coach. But sad to say that WBB is not going to be enough to carry us to the ACC/B12.

Agree that it's a pretty fair assessment. Bottom line, what we did in the first dozen years of the program was ******* incredible, because it WAS the first 12 years of our existence. Take that out of the equation and we had a pretty good, not great, run. I know the "but what ifs" will come out but nobody knows how, or even if, things would have changed under different circumstances ....