Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Triple B]

25 minutes ago, Sellular1 said:

Commish sounded actually sad at what has become the super conf model.  Seemed old school about amateur athletics.  NIL sux etc

There was a pretty good piece by Baker in the Times about what this is doing, the lead in to the article ....

Deep into an empty answer Nick Saban didn’t want to give, Alabama’s legendary football coach hit the nerve of the question overshadowing his sport.

“If we have two 20-team leagues,” Saban said Tuesday during SEC media days, “how is that going to impact all the people that are not in those leagues? That’s a question for all of you to speculate and answer on.”

[puc86]

1 minute ago, Bull Daly said:

You all better be careful for what you wish for lol. 

The last value that people have held onto for VPMK has long been stated as his connections in the wake of his consistent and systematic failure, I’m long on record that if the connections actually prove to have any value at some point the long suffering that is his reign will all be worth it. If they still lead to us being passed by it would seem that we suffered his failure in vain. 

[Bull Matrix]

People are finally waking up…

[Bull Matrix]

2 minutes ago, Triple B said:

There was a pretty good piece by Baker in the Times about what this is doing, the lead in to the article ....

Deep into an empty answer Nick Saban didn’t want to give, Alabama’s legendary football coach hit the nerve of the question overshadowing his sport.

“If we have two 20-team leagues,” Saban said Tuesday during SEC media days, “how is that going to impact all the people that are not in those leagues? That’s a question for all of you to speculate and answer on.”

Think the ones that get left out will join together and create their own 12 or 16 team playoff. 

[Gat-Rat Bull]

Was watching the ACC commissioner press conference on the ACC Network just now, and he definitely has a soft spot for the non (so-called) P5 schools. He mentioned that he left Notre Dame to work as AD at a non-P5 school and that he saw just as much enthusiasm in those athletes and believes they deserve to not be left behind by the changes happening in college sports today. He used a neighborhood analogy, and said something along the lines of all neighborhoods should be in the discussion (for participation in an expanded playoff, not breaking up D1 into sub-divisions, etc.), not just the "gated communities" (i.e. P5 or P whatever # it will be). Oh, and when someone asked him about saying 17 teams instead of 15, he corrected himself but also had a huge grin on his face (maybe he was just embarrassed, or maybe he knew he got caught spilling the beans...). None of this means USF is going to the ACC, of course, but a Bull can dream, right?

Edited July 20, 2022 by Gat-Rat Bull

[Bull Matrix]

Looking like MHver is changing up the rumors once again….

[Cubanbull]

31 minutes ago, Bull Daly said:

Looking like MHver is changing up the rumors once again….

But is what I keep saying the ACC is bound by GOR but it needs extra income. The one way it can get ESPN to look at contract is to add schools.

He is correct that the Big12 schools including the incoming are bound by GOR and an exit fee of the last two years Media rights so 80 million. So if the ACC is going to expand is either with PAC schools which make no sense travel wise or look at schools like USF.

Now some would say that if they add schools the GOR could go away or be challenged. But here is the thing the Big12 added 4 and Texas and OU didn’t try to use that change in membership to get out of GOR.

Now let’s say ACC who’s contract currently pays around 40 million each, added two, let’s say UConn and USF and that the current market value of league would be 50 million each. Now notice the extra money is NOT coming from the additions but for the increase in market value of league.

To keep the Clemson’s and others happy for rest of GOR, they would need to go to an unequal payout. One way to do it would be by using the extra tv revenue which would be 140 million from the current 14 football members, you then get USF and UConn to get 35 million a year, putting 30 million more in the extra revenue for 170 million.

Everybody gets 40 million a year as they do now except the two newcomers at 35 million each.

Top 2 every year get 30 million more each, so they could get 70 million a year

Teams 3,4,5 get 20 million more so, they make 60 million each

Teams 6,7,8 get 15 million more so they make 55 million each.

I’m not saying it will happen, just posting an opinion on how they can get that extra cash to keep everybody happy until GOR runs out.

[Gat-Rat Bull]

6 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

But is what I keep saying the ACC is bound by GOR but it needs extra income. The one way it can get ESPN to look at contract is to add schools.

He is correct that the Big12 schools including the incoming are bound by GOR and an exit fee of the last two years Media rights so 80 million. So if the ACC is going to expand is either with PAC schools which make no sense travel wise or look at schools like USF.

Now some would say that if they add schools the GOR could go away or be challenged. But here is the thing the Big12 added 4 and Texas and OU didn’t try to use that change in membership to get out of GOR.

Now let’s say ACC who’s contract currently pays around 40 million each, added two, let’s say UConn and USF and that the current market value of league would be 50 million each. Now notice the extra money is NOT coming from the additions but for the increase in market value of league.

To keep the Clemson’s and others happy for rest of GOR, they would need to go to an unequal payout. One way to do it would be by using the extra tv revenue which would be 140 million from the current 14 football members, you then get USF and UConn to get 35 million a year, putting 30 million more in the extra revenue for 170 million.

Everybody gets 40 million a year as they do now except the two newcomers at 35 million each.

Top 2 every year get 30 million more each, so they could get 70 million a year

Teams 3,4,5 get 20 million more so, they make 60 million each

Teams 6,7,8 get 15 million more so they make 55 million each.

I’m not saying it will happen, just posting an opinion on how they can get that extra cash to keep everybody happy until GOR runs out.

Sounds fair to me. Let's do it!

[Bull Matrix]

11 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

But is what I keep saying the ACC is bound by GOR but it needs extra income. The one way it can get ESPN to look at contract is to add schools.

He is correct that the Big12 schools including the incoming are bound by GOR and an exit fee of the last two years Media rights so 80 million. So if the ACC is going to expand is either with PAC schools which make no sense travel wise or look at schools like USF.

Now some would say that if they add schools the GOR could go away or be challenged. But here is the thing the Big12 added 4 and Texas and OU didn’t try to use that change in membership to get out of GOR.

Now let’s say ACC who’s contract currently pays around 40 million each, added two, let’s say UConn and USF and that the current market value of league would be 50 million each. Now notice the extra money is NOT coming from the additions but for the increase in market value of league.

To keep the Clemson’s and others happy for rest of GOR, they would need to go to an unequal payout. One way to do it would be by using the extra tv revenue which would be 140 million from the current 14 football members, you then get USF and UConn to get 35 million a year, putting 30 million more in the extra revenue for 170 million.

Everybody gets 40 million a year as they do now except the two newcomers at 35 million each.

Top 2 every year get 30 million more each, so they could get 70 million a year

Teams 3,4,5 get 20 million more so, they make 60 million each

Teams 6,7,8 get 15 million more so they make 55 million each.

I’m not saying it will happen, just posting an opinion on how they can get that extra cash to keep everybody happy until GOR runs out.

Yes! This makes the most sense out of all that is out there right now. Interesting times ahead. 

[NewEnglandBull]

42 minutes ago, Cubanbull said:

But is what I keep saying the ACC is bound by GOR but it needs extra income. The one way it can get ESPN to look at contract is to add schools.

He is correct that the Big12 schools including the incoming are bound by GOR and an exit fee of the last two years Media rights so 80 million. So if the ACC is going to expand is either with PAC schools which make no sense travel wise or look at schools like USF.

Now some would say that if they add schools the GOR could go away or be challenged. But here is the thing the Big12 added 4 and Texas and OU didn’t try to use that change in membership to get out of GOR.

Now let’s say ACC who’s contract currently pays around 40 million each, added two, let’s say UConn and USF and that the current market value of league would be 50 million each. Now notice the extra money is NOT coming from the additions but for the increase in market value of league.

To keep the Clemson’s and others happy for rest of GOR, they would need to go to an unequal payout. One way to do it would be by using the extra tv revenue which would be 140 million from the current 14 football members, you then get USF and UConn to get 35 million a year, putting 30 million more in the extra revenue for 170 million.

Everybody gets 40 million a year as they do now except the two newcomers at 35 million each.

Top 2 every year get 30 million more each, so they could get 70 million a year

Teams 3,4,5 get 20 million more so, they make 60 million each

Teams 6,7,8 get 15 million more so they make 55 million each.

I’m not saying it will happen, just posting an opinion on how they can get that extra cash to keep everybody happy until GOR runs out.

Of course the AAC can wait 2 years then get the B12 teams they want. On the other hand USF would take a discount in a second to get into the AAC…and a rather significant one at that 

Edited July 21, 2022 by NewEnglandBull